Quote Originally Posted by mlsstl
(re:who cares about astronomical values? )Apparently you did when you stated that coiling will increase inductance without reference to the amount of inductance created or the influence on audibility.
Actually, astronomical means "exceptionally large" as the value you cited with DF, not small. My point is that your calculations ignore any effect caused the amplifier-speaker system.

Quote Originally Posted by mlsstl
Not too many years ago amp makers were chasing incredibly low distortion numbers yet amplifiers that did not measure as well sounded better.
Exactly! They (like you) were missing the forest for the trees by focusing on the value of a metric independent of anything else. That's why I commented. The loss values you quoted do not translate to the real world of amplifiers driving speakers.

Quote Originally Posted by mlsstl
Your position on the situation is just as much a "theoretical gyration" as mine...
I merely point out there are indeed measurable effects outside the cocktail napkin theory.

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