what gauge wire ?

[mlsstl]

... who cares about astronomical values?

Apparently you did when you stated that coiling will increase inductance without reference to the amount of inductance created or the influence on audibility.

You continue to completely miss the point by performing your theoretical gyrations of inductance in a vacuum.

Et tu.

The paper you referred to above makes not one reference to whether any of the measured interactions were audible under either normal or test conditions.

The ability to measure a difference does not equate to something being audibly better. Not too many years ago amp makers were chasing incredibly low distortion numbers yet amplifiers that did not measure as well sounded better.

Likewise, nothing you've said above indicates that coiling a speaker wire would be audible. Your position on the situation is just as much a "theoretical gyration" as mine unless there is a portion of this thread that is not available for my viewing.

[E-Stat]

(re:who cares about astronomical values? )Apparently you did when you stated that coiling will increase inductance without reference to the amount of inductance created or the influence on audibility.

Actually, astronomical means "exceptionally large" as the value you cited with DF, not small. My point is that your calculations ignore any effect caused the amplifier-speaker system.

Not too many years ago amp makers were chasing incredibly low distortion numbers yet amplifiers that did not measure as well sounded better.

Exactly! They (like you) were missing the forest for the trees by focusing on the value of a metric independent of anything else. That's why I commented. The loss values you quoted do not translate to the real world of amplifiers driving speakers.

Your position on the situation is just as much a "theoretical gyration" as mine...

I merely point out there are indeed measurable effects outside the cocktail napkin theory.

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