Finally made my cable decision!

[musicoverall]

After a couple of months of auditioning cables - and discovering that the Nordost Valhalla I liked best was way beyond my price range - I found what seems to be the perfect IC's and speaker cable for my system - the Cardas Neutral Reference. Two sets of IC's and a bi-wired set of speaker cable were found on the used market and I'm astonished at the improvement in performance over my previous wire. At first, I thought the lower mids and the upper bass was thin sounding but I realized that it was the lack of distortion that was causing bloat and grain! I was amazed and pleased.

I'm very happy with my decision and I think my system is now complete!

[risabet]

I'm very happy with my decision and I think my system is now complete!

For now, if there is one thing I've found is that the upgrade bug is never dead, it may be hibernating but it is still alive. Congrats on the cable choices. Are you ready to be flamed by the DBT'ers.

[musicoverall]

For now, if there is one thing I've found is that the upgrade bug is never dead, it may be hibernating but it is still alive. Congrats on the cable choices. Are you ready to be flamed by the DBT'ers.

It's time now to upgrade my music collection... well, increase it anyway!

The DBT'ers and I disagree on one fundamental point... I trust my senses and they don't. My senses ARE my reality, just as they are the reality of most people. What we see, touch, smell, taste and hear are our world - it makes up who we are. I absolutely don't want to start second guessing that. If I do, I may as well start mistrusting that I see snow, hear a bird chirp, that it's really chicken I'm tasting, etc, etc. Certainly the senses can be fooled but if they're fooled into the same conclusion each and every time, I'd have to wonder if they truly are being fooled! So I'm going to sit back and enjoy the perceived improvement my new cables bring to my system and I'll let the DBT'ers do the second guessing.

[Pat D]

It's time now to upgrade my music collection... well, increase it anyway!

The DBT'ers and I disagree on one fundamental point... I trust my senses and they don't. My senses ARE my reality, just as they are the reality of most people. What we see, touch, smell, taste and hear are our world - it makes up who we are. I absolutely don't want to start second guessing that. If I do, I may as well start mistrusting that I see snow, hear a bird chirp, that it's really chicken I'm tasting, etc, etc. Certainly the senses can be fooled but if they're fooled into the same conclusion each and every time, I'd have to wonder if they truly are being fooled! So I'm going to sit back and enjoy the perceived improvement my new cables bring to my system and I'll let the DBT'ers do the second guessing.

If you're happy about your purchase, I have no complaint.

However, I do point out that it is the so-called DBT crowd that trusts their hearing. A blind audition requires listening--it's listening without benefit of knowing what component is being used. Those who think they can identify various pieces of equipment in an audition by the sound are often mistaken.

[musicoverall]

However, I do point out that it is the so-called DBT crowd that trusts their hearing. A blind audition requires listening--it's listening without benefit of knowing what component is being used. Those who think they can identify various pieces of equipment in an audition by the sound are often mistaken.

I disagree. If they trusted their hearing, they'd listen and not concern themselves with DBT.

[Pat D]

I disagree. If they trusted their hearing, they'd listen and not concern themselves with DBT.

What do you think a controlled double blind audition involves? It involves listening. Sighted listening involves knowing what equipment one is using at the time, so it is open to all sorts of biases. The only thing a participant in a double blind audition can depend on is his/her hearing.

[E-Stat]

However, I do point out that it is the so-called DBT crowd that trusts their hearing.

What a curious comment !

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[Rycher]

It's time now to upgrade my music collection... well, increase it anyway!

I may as well start mistrusting that I see snow, hear a bird chirp, that it's really chicken I'm tasting, etc, etc. Certainly the senses can be fooled but if they're fooled into the same conclusion each and every time, I'd have to wonder if they truly are being fooled! So I'm going to sit back and enjoy the perceived improvement my new cables bring to my system and I'll let the DBT'ers do the second guessing.

You see, black isin't really black, it's shades of gray. Green is really blue and yellow.

You are totally correct in trusting your senses and flipping off the DBTer's. The fact is simple, most people cannot see or hear any difference due to any number of reasons, and just because THEY can't, doesn't mean others can't either. If YOU see it and hear it, good for you. I, for one would love to hear from you after installing your new cables. I love tweaking my system by changing out cables too.

[musicoverall]

You see, black isin't really black, it's shades of gray. Green is really blue and yellow.

You are totally correct in trusting your senses and flipping off the DBTer's. The fact is simple, most people cannot see or hear any difference due to any number of reasons, and just because THEY can't, doesn't mean others can't either. If YOU see it and hear it, good for you. I, for one would love to hear from you after installing your new cables. I love tweaking my system by changing out cables too.

The fact with cables is there are many voices in the choir. Depending on the system, certain cables either work or don't. With the Cardas, everything snapped into focus without anything really standing out. They seemed totally neutral. It didn't seem like I was using a cable with a blatant fault that could cover a blatant fault of the system. It was more like a neutral cable correcting the minor faults of the previous cable. That's the best way to upgrade, IMHO!

[Justlisten2]

After a couple of months of auditioning cables - and discovering that the Nordost Valhalla I liked best was way beyond my price range - I found what seems to be the perfect IC's and speaker cable for my system - the Cardas Neutral Reference. Two sets of IC's and a bi-wired set of speaker cable were found on the used market and I'm astonished at the improvement in performance over my previous wire. At first, I thought the lower mids and the upper bass was thin sounding but I realized that it was the lack of distortion that was causing bloat and grain! I was amazed and pleased.

I'm very happy with my decision and I think my system is now complete!

Congrats and enjoy.