Cables reviewing by reputable publications/magazines.

[mtrycraft]

I have no problem with the concept, just weak execution. I await hearing details of a DBT that isn't dumbed down to be worthless.

Then you have nothing to evaluate audible differences as sighted listening has nothing going for it, not fixable from the start. You have nothing then. DBTs are not 'dumbed down' and have meaning. Some just don't like the answers.



Or engineers of far better equipment such as Alon, GamuT, Edge, VTL, Joule Electra, et. al who have a different perspective.

They may have different perspective. Means nothing in the real world of audio. That leaves out the high end voodoo world that they may be part of. But then I don't know any of these outfits. Maybe for the best, my blood will not boil.


Didn't Dunlavy go out of business?


Don't know. If they did, wasn't because of poor design.

[E-Stat]

DBTs are not 'dumbed down' and have meaning. Some just don't like the answers.

ALL tests, DBTs included, can only provide answers based upon the testing criteria used. If Consumer's Union does testing between a number of vacuum cleaners, and based upon the study, concludes that say uprights are better than canisters, then those results are only valid for the sample tested. There could well be any number of cannisters not in the test group that are better than any of the original study.

Similarly, I have no problem with Stereo Review conducting DBTs on cables using inexpensive receivers and bookshelf speakers with the conclusion that all cables sound the same. It is only when such results are then extrapolated far beyond the test study that they are rendered comical. Such a test proves absolutely nothing for when the level of the audio gear is significantly raised. The often referenced Russell link consists only of results on mid-fi equipment (that is to say where they provide ANY detail whatsoever as to the gear used).

rw

[mtrycraft]

ALL tests, DBTs included, can only provide answers based upon the testing criteria used. If Consumer's Union does testing between a number of vacuum cleaners, and based upon the study, concludes that say uprights are better than canisters, then those results are only valid for the sample tested. There could well be any number of cannisters not in the test group that are better than any of the original study.

Similarly, I have no problem with Stereo Review conducting DBTs on cables using inexpensive receivers and bookshelf speakers with the conclusion that all cables sound the same. It is only when such results are then extrapolated far beyond the test study that they are rendered comical. Such a test proves absolutely nothing for when the level of the audio gear is significantly raised. The often referenced Russell link consists only of results on mid-fi equipment (that is to say where they provide ANY detail whatsoever as to the gear used).

rw

Yes, you may be right if there was only one test. There isn't. 30 years of testing on any different number of gear, including very expensive cable maker's gear with null results.
Where are all the positive data on expensive setups? Why is none to be found after 30 years? It should be a snap from what I gather from you.

Oh, your vacuum is a very poor analogy. Unfortunate. I thought you would know better.

[E-Stat]

30 years of testing on any different number of gear, including very expensive cable maker's gear with null results.

Can you point me to at least one such test with full details?

rw

[mtrycraft]

Can you point me to at least one such test with full details?

rw

I have posted my citation lists many times.
Can you point to one test showing differences?

[E-Stat]

I have posted my citation lists many times.

So, would you be so kind as to provide a link to same?

rw

[mtrycraft]

So, would you be so kind as to provide a link to same?

rw

What? Are you finally going to do some research on your own?

http://forums14.consumerreview.com/c...27@.ef9eb2a/43

http://forums14.consumerreview.com/crforum?14@142.gbpHa8C4hbx^21@.ef469fd/11

http://2eyespy.tripod.com/myaudioand...epage/id3.html

[Bobby Blacklight]

Any review of almost any component used in the audio chain that was not done in your room with your gear is just a reference point. Even used as a reference point it a ppoor one because there is no way to really know how it all will work together unless you try. All reviews are based on peoples opinions and should be considered as such. Opinions will vary.