How do some of you know about the events with PS and not others of us? I found this quite enlightening as I fell into the camp that thought he crossed the line some but not nearly as irritating as Pix. I don't mind Pix or anyone having opposing views but when you are plain wrong, and it's been proven beyond a doubt you are wrong yet you stick to your incorrect view, then you have a serious issue. That attitude voids the purpose of being here. I've been wrong on things before and admit I usually require proof before I will change my mind, after all I'm in the "Show Me" state, but when shown I'm wrong I change my view. I remember a couple years ago being in a debate on rear surround speakers, I followed what I saw in high end stores and had been told, that the rears should point at the listening position. This I believe is becoming more accepted. At the time though Dolby's website sure enough showed diagrams backing the other guys position that the rears should fire at one another, even in a DD set up, so I had no choice but to fall in line. It was humbling because the person was a lot younger than me. I played around with my owned speakers and I actually left them firing at each other because it did seem to be the best sound effect. I recently switched them back to pointing at my listening seat for a while. Any way, let's not digress.