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    Quote Originally Posted by SRO
    Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11.
    I never said it did. I implied that something like 9/11 could change a person's course of action or perspective of the world around him. It could have changed his idea about Nation Building. So again, HOW DID HE LIE?

    Quote Originally Posted by SRO
    What is wrong with a timetable?.
    Nothing is wrong with a timetable. But it has to be flexible. The problem the democrats have right now is a lot of the country believe they are hell bent on pulling troops out of Iraq by a specific time reagardless of what happens in the meantime. Timetables should be fluid. The democrats are viewed by many as wanting to make it a "hard" deadline.

    Quote Originally Posted by SRO
    We need to send a message that we are there to help, not police. The quicker they understand that they need to take over operations, and that we will not be there forever the better. .
    Well, if you or the democrats know how to convince Iraq of this and make it happen sooner than later, I'm all ears. But that's the problem, democrats can't even begin to tell us how they will do this. They don't have a clue and have no interest in coming up with a plan. They just want seats. They hope that enough people will "assume" they must have a plan. I am not that happy about being in Iraq these days but I am really afraid that a democratic controlled house, senate and maybe even presidency would put Iraq on the back burner. This would be a huge mistake.

    Quote Originally Posted by SRO
    In 2004, when Kerry changed his mind he was a flip flopper. That was my point. Bush is a liar or a flip flopper, you decide.
    Bush appears to have "flip-flopped" on this issue (nation building) due to a significant world event. Kerry seems to flip-flop due to any slight directional wind change. Kerry's biggest problem with the "flip-flop" issue was there were so many flip-flops. He seemed to say whatever his audience wanted to hear. And that bit him in the ass. In today's internet world, a person's words can and will come back to haunt them. In Kerry's case, over and over and over again.

    Quote Originally Posted by SRO
    By the way, I am not a Democrat. I do not belong to any party.
    Nor do I but I am more conservative in my political views. I have said for years, I will vote for ANY candidate that will erect a huge wall/fence along the Mexican border to keep illegals out. A big electric fence! Illegal imigration is a far larger problem here in the US than terrorism. Unfortunately, Republicans and Democrats are too busy trying to find potential voters to do anything real about it.

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