Quote Originally Posted by Feanor
Thanks for your long and ... uhmm ... thoughtful reply. You're right: I'm sure there are stupid Democrates too.
Yes, my posts are usually long because I like to address each point I disagree with. And yes, they are thoughtful, incorporating logic and reason. And despite your sarcasm, if you had read a little closer, I wasn't saying there are just a FEW stupid Democrats. I was basically saying that roughly 98% of Democrats are too stupid to know what's good for them and this country! The evidence overwhelmingly proves it!
Quote Originally Posted by JSE
Jeskibuff,

Damn, I sure miss the days when you were around here more! Good to see you popped in to smack some Demo arse.
Thanks, JSE! Priorities change and times change. I miss some of the old days too, but I just don't have the time anymore to frequent the message boards.

Quote Originally Posted by JSE
I have been mostly keeping out of politics of late but I have to comment on this.

I keep hearing democrats saying "we need a new direction in Irag, we need change, we need a fresh look, etc, etc."

What I have not heard, is what this new direction/change/look/etc. will be. Not from one democrat. They keep saying how bad Bush and the Republicans have been and how nothing is working but they have yet to say "HOW THEY" are going to make it work or even what their proposed plan is. Why is that? Oh yeah, they don't have a clue.
You've got that right. Why it's not obvious to more people is beyond my ability to comprehend. Some people just cling tenaciously to their beliefs no matter how many holes get shot in their weak platforms. Oh, and have you seen this this little gem from David Zucker (of Airplane/Naked Gun movie fame)?? It should be mandatory viewing before people vote tomorrow!
Quote Originally Posted by Feanor
Sometimes NO plan ... ... is better than a really, really bad one.
Okay...here's progress. At least you admit the Dumbocrats have no plans. That's the first step towards recovery. As far as your implication that Bush's plan is bad, you're dead wrong. Given the things we know, his plan is the absolutely best track for America, like it or not. The evidence proves it. You evidently just don't have the capacity to grasp it.

Quote Originally Posted by SRO
In January 2001, the national debt was roughly $6 TRILLION. Next spring, it is expected to top $9 TRILLION. Your share went from $20,000 to what will be $30,000. I make a decent salary, and with the tax cuts I bring home about $24 a year additional. With the tax cuts that Republicans like to crow about I can cover $120 of my additional $10,000.

Who is fiscally responsible?
Wars are expensive. No one really likes them, but the alternative is far worse. Democrats have absolutely no concept of what that alternative is. They have no concept of the nature of our enemies. Quite simply, they are fools not worthy of a single vote.

Quote Originally Posted by SRO
Jeskibuff - Who has "vitriolic passionate hatred"? Please re-read your post before replying.
I usually read my posts several times before I submit them. I check for spelling and grammar, but most importantly the to make sure my message is communicated loud and clear. I really don't hate Dumbocrats. I just have an extremely low tolerance for stupidity. The liberals I know get along with me fine. We have entertaining conversations and many have called me the best Republican they've ever met.

We've just gone through several years that should have clearly exposed the seedy and unsavory nature of the Democratic Party. We had a President that lied in every other word that came out of his mouth. It finally took some DNA proof to corner him into telling the truth. The next Democratic nominee wasn't so adept at lying, thinking he could get away with taking both sides on every issue. Almost half the population voted for the pompous traitor!

We had the obvious media attempt to smear a good President, if nothing but to retaliate for exposing the lying Clintons for who they were. We had Mikey Mooron make his moronic Fahrenheit film while Dan Rather peddled his fake "authentic" memos. We had book after book of Bush-hating rhetoric published, yet the accusers all get exposed as the liars. Bush got blamed for everything from the WTC collapse to hurricane Katrina. Yet, with this huge mountain of evidence showing Dumbocrats to be liars, traitors and frauds, we STILL have millions of clueless people still supporting the Dumbocratic Party! WHAT DOES IT TAKE to get it through their thick skulls???

Quote Originally Posted by SRO
Anyone who would not vote for some one just because of the letter at the end of there name seems short-sighted.
To reiterate, anyone who has seen what has gone on the last several years and still votes the (D)s has the vision problem. They obviously are totally blind.

Quote Originally Posted by Feanor
It's hard to imagine any other plan ...being worse than GWB's. Certainly American ought to ask Democrate leaders what their plan is -- although they have actually got at least a year to work out the details, i.e. in time for the Presidential race.
Good luck on getting anything out of a Dimocrat leader. And as I stated before, GWB's plan is solid and sensible.

Quote Originally Posted by Feanor
But, hey, listen! I don't believe the US should "cut and run" any more than GWB does. My concern is not so much for American service people (or taxpayers) but for the Iraqi people who would be left in the lurch if the US were to just quit. The US owes a huge debt to them, given the damage done.
You obviously infer the damage was done by the U.S. What you fail to realize is that the damage was done by Saddam and is currently being perpetrated by terrorists. But it's comforting to know that you have a tad bit more ethical backbone than the bulk of Democrats have.

Quote Originally Posted by Feanor
On the other hand Iraqis need to yank on their bootstraps a little harder. If Iraqis don't do their part, the US obligation will eventually expire.
Agreed. Unfortunately, the good ones are being slaughtered by the bad ones. The terrorists have demonstrated their capacity to infiltrate the Iraqi police force and inflict enormous damage. Those who don't value life have a great deal of persuasion (via fear) over people who do.

Quote Originally Posted by SRO
I haven't heard any plan on Iraq from Bush, other than "stay the course". Even this is no longer the plan. If he doesn't have to tell then why should the Dems?
The plan has been on the table all along: build up the Iraqi troops so they can take over. Unfortunately, the blood-thirsty terrorists have a counterplan that is working very well: slaughter as many of the good Iraqis that they can. The intricacies of our plan aren't on display and shouldn't be. That involves our use of technology and methods in identifying and exterminating the vermin. The methods are being adjusted and new tactics must be used, but the overall plan is the same: stay the course. We also have to fight Dumbocrats who want to restrict our tactics in this war. Those who believe that plans are foolproof are just idiots - the enemy has the capability of reacting to our strategy. If we stuck to the same methodology, we'd be the fools, but we've been changing. Democratic fools just want to declare a victory by saying "Bush has failed, let's pack up and stop the killing!" Good thing these pansies weren't in command when storming Normandy beach! Dean_Martin's post has a good example of the Bush plan: "The strategic goal is to help this young democracy succeed in a world in which extremists are trying to intimidate rational people in order to topple moderate governments and to extend the caliphate." It doesn't begin to describe that caliphate, but think "Taliban".

Quote Originally Posted by SRO
Of course, a few Dems have brought up a phased withdrawal of troops only to be labeled as cut and runners. Recently I have heard a few Reps use a term ( which currently escapes me ) which means the same thing. Do Republicans also want to cut and run?
There are cowardly Republicans too, afraid that they may not get elected if they associate themselves with Bush. They deserve to lose, but to replace even a cowardly Republican with a wishy-washy fool of a Democrat is a much worse thing.

Quote Originally Posted by daviethek
bush is an embarrasment Our president is a windbag cought in the middle of a struggle way over his C average.
With all this hot air coming out of windbags like you, tell me why is it so easy to use logic and reason to defend the strategies of GWB and shoot holes in your flimsy arguments? Who's the real "C average" student in this scenario? Here's a hint: it's not GWB! You need to study harder!

Quote Originally Posted by daviethek
The war is being conducted with no regard for the future of of Iraq.
What a load of bull! It is entirely focused on the future of Iraq. We could "win" it in a second if we dropped a nuke on Baghdad, but we value innocent lives so we put our own flesh and blood on the line so they can have a future!

Quote Originally Posted by daviethek
If we cared at all about the country, we would seal off the borders, put the proper number of troops in there to do a Real Occuption and give those people the time necessary to learn what the hell to do. Instead we continue on some hap-hazard damage control path. We simply can't win this war. Time and resources are on the side of the enemy. Somebody should have thought about this 5 years ago. Isn't this what we pay the CIA for?
Spoken like a true armchair quarterback! Do you have any idea what kind of manpower alone is necessary to seal off the borders of a country the size of California? I realize you look at a map and see a country the size of a postage stamp, but that's really just a picture. The real Iraq is MUCH bigger!

Quote Originally Posted by daviethek
Sure Dems are not offering any suggestions at this point. They are labeled as cut and run traitors if they voice the least amount of verbal opposition.
Simply because they only offer criticism and their selfish motives are clear as day. Never have they come up with alternatives. Dumb Kerry said he had a plan, but I guess he's keeping it all to himself because he lost, isn't he? GET A CLUE! That dolt doesn't have the slightest idea what he would do!

Quote Originally Posted by daviethek
Bush promotes democracy abroad whitch is good but does not tolerate the least amount of dissent at home.
Well, I guess this will be the last we hear from you then. Good luck in the concentration camps.

Idiot.