So did Isreal do the right thing?

[JoeE SP9]

I say shoot them all and let God sort it out (And i mean all religious fanatics)

I'm with you on this one Flo. I've said before, we should neutron bomb the entire middle east. We should include Afghanistan and Iran in the bombing. Neutron bombs would kill only people and preserve the valuable infrastructure. Oh and while we're at it we should accidently drop a few on North Korea and get rid of that mess also.

[Florian]

I'm with you on this one Flo. I've said before, we should neutron bomb the entire middle east. We should include Afghanistan and Iran in the bombing. Neutron bombs would kill only people and preserve the valuable infrastructure. Oh and while we're at it we should accidently drop a few on North Korea and get rid of that mess also.

Yep, i am sick of all this religious crap and this incl. the entire christianity all the same.

[JoeE SP9]

Yep, i am sick of all this religious crap and this incl. the entire christianity all the same.

All religions are silly!!!

[noddin0ff]

All religions are silly!!!

That's not true, the only silly religions are the ones that aren't mine.

[kexodusc]

That's not true, the only silly religions are the ones that aren't mine.

I don't think the religion has anything to do with it - I'm not aware that these religions are teaching war-making - it's people with other agendas introducing that. The religions are being twisted to manipulate people, undeniably, but as far as I can tell, the 3 Abrahamic faiths (Islam, Christianity, Judaism) all teach peace. Human nature is the corrupt party here - been plenty of non-religious tyrants as well.

[noddin0ff]

I don't think the religion has anything to do with it - I'm not aware that these religions are teaching war-making - it's people with other agendas introducing that. The religions are being twisted to manipulate people, undeniably, but as far as I can tell, the 3 Abrahamic faiths (Islam, Christianity, Judaism) all teach peace. Human nature is the corrupt party here - been plenty of non-religious tyrants as well.

Well, in this case, it's probably all about religion, fundamentally. Everyone lays claim to the land because it is home to sites of great importance to the respective religions. In the US, it's the Christian right in the US that supports Israel because of the religious ties to Judaism. Layer historic claims to the land over on top of religion, and then layer political power and regional influence desires over that, and then throw in a mix of self interest and you get a mix that I don't understand.

Doing some Googling…

Lebanon is 40% Christian, 30% Sunni, and 30 Shiite. The Sunni+Christian majority is the more wealthy and better-educated population, and it is the combined majority that wants to rid Lebanon of Syrian influence. Hezbollah is popular with the poorer Shia community because Hezbollah promotes social services like schools and hospitals.

Hezbollah’s Shiite religion is modeled after that of Iranian Scholars. Hezbollah want the destruction of the state of Israel. Iran and Syria fund Hezbollah.

Hamas is Sunni, wants the destruction of Israel and the establishment of an Islamic Palestinian State where Israel is. Saudi Arabia is Sunni and funds Hamas

Egypt is Sunni and borders Gaza where the Hamas conflict is but wants Hamas to recognize Israel.

Lebanon and Syria both lay claim to land that Israel withdrew from in 2000. Syria wants to maintain political control over Lebanon and backs Hezbollah. I suppose because if it didn’t then the Christian and Sunni majority would run Lebanon. I guess the goal of Syria is to destabilize this majority.

The Lebonese civil war in the late 1970’s started I think because the French in the 1920’s created a Christian controlled government in Lebonan. The Christians were an actual majority then. But trying to understand the factions in this war is beyond me. It looks very complicated.

By fighting Shia Hezbollah in Lebanon, Israel could bolster the Christian and Sunni majorities that are generally more aligned with US and allies.

Iran is 90% Shia. Curiously, Syria is 75% Sunni (I can’t figure out this one). I don’t’ think the Lebanon-Syria friction is a religious conflict, just a power one. Except that Syria probably doesn’t want too strong of a Lebonese alignment with Judeo-Christian nations.

Iran is going nuclear, wants more influence in the region, funds Hezbollah, is going nuclear, wants to destroy Israel, is closely aligned with Syria, is going nuclear, funds Hamas as well so they can destroy Israel, is a Theocratic republic, is closely aligned with Syria, oh, and is going nuclear.


Anyway…just rambling while I try to educate myself.

[JoeE SP9]

Muslims in general want the end of Isreal. Along with that they want all Jews dead. Once they have accomplished that Christians and Catholics are next. Radical Muslims want a world like the Taliban had in Afghanistan. Remember, recently an Afhgani citizen was sentenced to death for converting to Christianity. Radical Muslims want a theocratic world government. One of the basic concepts of Islam is that church and state are the same. Radical Muslims are rapidly becomming the majority of Islamic followers.
Islam is the greatest threat to secular life that has ever existed.