Okay, I am sick of hearing about lip syncing

[noddin0ff]

To attempt some fairness, Sir T has far more helpful informative and positive posts in the forums than bad. I really am a fan of his posts, I'm not just making that up. And, there's a fair amount of baiting going on since I think most of us rather enjoy a good tussle.

I just think we, as a group, probably need to tighten up our standards of discourse a bit or lose what little readership we have left.

[dean_martin]

Sir T, welcome to your intervention. It's only because we love and care about you.


(Internal dialogue with mischievous self: "Hmmm . . . post or delete? Don't get involved. Is this baiting? Go ahead, it's funny".)

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Sir T, welcome to your intervention. It's only because we love and care about you.


(Internal dialogue with mischievous self: "Hmmm . . . post or delete? Don't get involved. Is this baiting? Go ahead, it's funny".)

If this is an intervention, don't film it - it would never make it to air. It is really more of a behavior shaping exercise that is a fail.

You can't change people, you just have to accept what you have. I have had to do it, and so will every one else.

[dean_martin]

If this is an intervention, don't film it - it would never make it to air. It is really more of a behavior shaping exercise that is a fail.

You can't change people, you just have to accept what you have. I have had to do it, and so will every one else.

Yes, it was pretty lame.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

One thing you notice about the change of the direction of this thread, is some of the very people that complain about somebody else's behavior, are guilty of shady baiting behavior themselves. Deflection is a pretty powerful tool if you know who to use it on. There is a phenomena called action and reaction, and it is on exhibition right here. The ones that are creating the action, are complaining about the reaction. You two may be fooling some folks, but you are not fooling me one bit.

I just love how folks like the high road while doing low road things. How they like to point to somebody else, when their comments start the problem in the first place. How they want to appear above it all, when their actions start the negative reactions.

Your hypocrisy is pretty staggering Hyfi and Steve.

Call the dog in.....the hunt is over.....the hounds have lost the scent, and the trail has gone cold.

[Hyfi]

One thing you notice about the change of the direction of this thread, is some of the very people that complain about somebody else's behavior, are guilty of shady baiting behavior themselves. Deflection is a pretty powerful tool if you know who to use it on. There is a phenomena called action and reaction, and it is on exhibition right here. The ones that are creating the action, are complaining about the reaction. You two may be fooling some folks, but you are not fooling me one bit.

I just love how folks like the high road while doing low road things. How they like to point to somebody else, when their comments start the problem in the first place. How they want to appear above it all, when their actions start the negative reactions.

Your hypocrisy is pretty staggering Hyfi and Steve.

Call the dog in.....the hunt is over.....the hounds have lost the scent, and the trail has gone cold.

Oh, the hunt is far from over. You always talk about deflection, the high road, bla bla bla

You asked above if I think you are as stupid as me. Well actually a bit more I would say. Maybe you have not yet figured out that my "baiting" which has never contained name calling and trash talk, is merely to bring out the real you. A "Trash Talkin from Da Hood Cyber Bully".

Many of the quotes above of yours were not just to me. That is how you treat every thread where there is a disagreement, argument, or otherwise. You CANNOT complete a thread or make your point without calling people names, telling them to perform impossible sex acts and flat out cyber bullying.

Also, NONE of the preceding comments of mine that they were a response to called you names or told you to go F yourself. I don't talk like that in public, and I don't talk that on line when anonymous. You on the other hand are that guy!

Now lets talk about deflection and stupidity again. This whole thring was started with an ABSOLUTE statement of yours.

""I finally watched and listened to the performance for the first time, and there is no way she is lip sync'ing.""

You were WRONG. But, since I pointed that out, you have gone on with deflection after another as to why you really were not wrong. Duh, everyone who lip sync does it to their own voice. They also practice it and many do it well. It took years to out Millie Vanillie right. They were professionals at faking it.

So instead of having the pea sized balls that half a man would need to just admit they were wrong and move on, you try to change the subject.

So now go back and do a quick search on anyone else here and you will not find the same trash but for a mere few threads from anyone since Dusty and YECH went at it back in the day.

Go back and review all your respones and show me where I did the same to you or anyone else. Show me where any current member of this place does the same over and over.

You have many choices on how to respond to a post you don't like or feel it is baiting you. You could ignore it, you could respond with a clever civil tongue, you could man up and admit when your wrong.....but you always choose to trash talk, name call, and cyber bully because that is who you are. Man up and deal with it. We all have to.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Oh, the hunt is far from over. You always talk about deflection, the high road, bla bla bla

You asked above if I think you are as stupid as me. Well actually a bit more I would say. Maybe you have not yet figured out that my "baiting" which has never contained name calling and trash talk, is merely to bring out the real you. A "Trash Talkin from Da Hood Cyber Bully".

Many of the quotes above of yours were not just to me. That is how you treat every thread where there is a disagreement, argument, or otherwise. You CANNOT complete a thread or make your point without calling people names, telling them to perform impossible sex acts and flat out cyber bullying.

Also, NONE of the preceding comments of mine that they were a response to called you names or told you to go F yourself. I don't talk like that in public, and I don't talk that on line when anonymous. You on the other hand are that guy!

Now lets talk about deflection and stupidity again. This whole thring was started with an ABSOLUTE statement of yours.

""I finally watched and listened to the performance for the first time, and there is no way she is lip sync'ing.""

You were WRONG. But, since I pointed that out, you have gone on with deflection after another as to why you really were not wrong. Duh, everyone who lip sync does it to their own voice. They also practice it and many do it well. It took years to out Millie Vanillie right. They were professionals at faking it.

So instead of having the pea sized balls that half a man would need to just admit they were wrong and move on, you try to change the subject.

So now go back and do a quick search on anyone else here and you will not find the same trash but for a mere few threads from anyone since Dusty and YECH went at it back in the day.

Go back and review all your respones and show me where I did the same to you or anyone else. Show me where any current member of this place does the same over and over.

You have many choices on how to respond to a post you don't like or feel it is baiting you. You could ignore it, you could respond with a clever civil tongue, you could man up and admit when your wrong.....but you always choose to trash talk, name call, and cyber bully because that is who you are. Man up and deal with it. We all have to.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL......WAHAHAHAHAHA.....this is just dripping with desperation. And it is best reflected by the racial overtones of this particular statement

Maybe you have not yet figured out that my "baiting" which has never contained name calling and trash talk, is merely to bring out the real you. A "Trash Talkin from Da Hood Cyber Bully".

To which I respond that you are nothing more than a pink fingered peckerwood pussy with a passive/aggressive inferiority complex.

Thank you for confessing that you were baiting. It kinda takes the air out of all your wining and complaining.

Once again, no baiting, no negative response. No action, no reaction. Get it?

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

To attempt some fairness, Sir T has far more helpful informative and positive posts in the forums than bad. I really am a fan of his posts, I'm not just making that up. And, there's a fair amount of baiting going on since I think most of us rather enjoy a good tussle.

I just think we, as a group, probably need to tighten up our standards of discourse a bit or lose what little readership we have left.

Noddin,
The reason this whole pile of crap came UP the toilet, is because there was a whole lot of confusion about Beyonce performance, and there still is.

Yes, we heard a pre-recorded performance. However, there were people close to the podium (Angela Basset) who could hear her voice softly and stated so. When you lip sync, that is what you do, you sing very softly, and let the pre-record carry the load. You can see her neck strain like a singer does when singing, it is just they had the microphone off.

So if the question is did she sing, the answer would be yes. Was the microphone on? No it was not, the pre-recorded track is what the audience heard. So your comments about admitting I am wrong would be silly because technically I was not - she was singing, it was just not what WE were hearing.

You are taking a black and white approach, when there are a ton of grey shades in between.

[StevenSurprenant]

To attempt some fairness, Sir T has far more helpful informative and positive posts in the forums than bad.

I just think we, as a group, probably need to tighten up our standards of discourse a bit or lose what little readership we have left.

Good posts or not, if no one is here to read them then what's the point?

Perhaps everyone that's unhappy with the situation needs to just stop posting for a while and see what happens. On one hand, nothing might change, on the other hand the board dies down to a murmur. If there aren't any new posts being made, new membership might stop and the board might shut down, just keep that in mind.

Today, I notice that there are 77 members and 10040 guests. That's not bad at all, but if only a few members are posting then the post are going to go out of date very quickly. Lately, how often have we seen threads brought back that are years old?

My take on this is that when a persons actions damage the reputation of a business, the business might have to close their doors. This is no different.

The last time I left the board was during the wire wars. A person couldn't say anything without getting jumped on. It was a waste of time to come here and I left for many years.

I'm not telling anyone what to do. All I have done is presented a couple of alternatives to the bad behavior problem.

[Hyfi]

To attempt some fairness, Sir T has far more helpful informative and positive posts in the forums than bad. I really am a fan of his posts, I'm not just making that up. And, there's a fair amount of baiting going on since I think most of us rather enjoy a good tussle.

I just think we, as a group, probably need to tighten up our standards of discourse a bit or lose what little readership we have left.

One of that last times we took this ride, I also said something similar. I have said that I have learned many a thing. But giving good information from time to time does not give anyone a free pass to trash talk every time he feels like it. A civilly posted bait, deserves a civil witty response like most adults can come up with.

The standards that you speak of are exactly what I will continue to point out. Trash Talking and Cyber Bullying.

Flag the posts, call the Mods...whatever you need to do. They really don't care or they would have stepped in a long time ago and just put a simple stop to it. There is no reason to allow a single member to do what T does at every chance he gets. You don't see anyone else doing it do you?

There is no reason why adults cannot keep a civil tongue, baited or otherwise. It's just how most adults behave.

[StevenSurprenant]

Flag the posts, call the Mods...whatever you need to do. They really don't care or they would have stepped in a long time ago and just put a simple stop to it. There is no reason to allow a single member to do what T does at every chance he gets. You don't see anyone else doing it do you?

I believe that you just hit the nail on the head...However, I know ForeverAutumn doesn't like this sort of thing. She stepped in when Mr. Terrible and I were going at it in one of her threads. That whole fiasco with T was the first time I ever ran into him and the stupidest thing I ever experienced. That's when I realized that T had really serious mental problems. That's also why reasoning when him is a waste of time. Back then I called him psychotic which is a general term that covers a great many mental aberrations. More specifically, he shows signs of paranoia, pathological narcissism, possible schizophrenia, and low self esteem. If you've been following the blogs, you'll know that he alluded to the idea that he deserved respect and if you didn't give it to him, he would make you pay. He does this with personal insults, sounding more like a 2 year old throwing a tantrum rather than the actions of an intelligent person. His attempts to emotionally hurt others has some degree of effect, hence the posts we are presently engaged in now. When he lacks the ability to use reason to make his point, he attacks, his tool of choice is defamation. I should point out that his narcissistic nature has him believing that only he knows what's true and what isn't. If you go along with him, then everything is fine, but question or disagree and he can't handle it. I will agree that some of his more lucid posts are interesting, but hardly earth shattering. The information he presents can be found all over the net, with some people who agree and some who don't. The fact is that his area of expertise is limited to the mixing console and recording studio. Much of what he says may be technically correct, but translates poorly to the home environment. He thinks that Hyfi and I are using “deflection”” to trap him, which is another manifestation of his delusions. The fact is that I am being very direct with my words, I'm just not talking to him (a waste of my time). T doesn't seem to understand that duplicity is the name of his game, not ours, but for his sake, and just this once, I'll address him directly...T, I know you won't understand, but your presence here on this board, while at times can add to the substance of audio, in the end, your innate drive to dictate and not listen, to demean and not tolerate, and total lack of social etiquette is causing great harm to this board. It's always about you, the people here don't matter to you, the reputation of this web site is of little consequence. What you add to this forum cannot undo the damage you create in your wake. Have I made myself perfectly clear?

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

T, I know you won't understand, but your presence here on this board, while at times can add to the substance of audio, in the end, your innate drive to dictate and not listen, to demean and not tolerate, and total lack of social etiquette is causing great harm to this board. It's always about you, the people here don't matter to you, the reputation of this web site is of little consequence. What you add to this forum cannot undo the damage you create in your wake. Have I made myself perfectly clear?

Yes, you have made it perfectly clear that you are self righteous, judgmental, and unwilling to accept people as they are. It is perfectly clear that you cannot see how YOUR actions can instigate a negative reaction. You spend all of these words trying to demean me, and then expect me to listen to anything you have to say. That is not so bright, but par for the course for you.

I have said this to you before, and I will repeat it again. Your online psychology is pitiful and pathetic. You don't know me from Adam's house cat. If you think you know me by what I post here, then you are a fool.

Steve, you have contributed ZERO technical information here, and your opinions and so called experience isn't worth jack crap. Deflection is the only thing you have really brought to the table. I just love the old "the dialog it too low, and the effects are too high, so it must be the mix cause it sure isn't my perfect system". "You sound mixers need to do your job better, cause your mixes are terrible". When the real problem it turns out is your POS system that is not properly calibrated, and sitting in a room with piss poor acoustics. Or how about the other one. "My center channel is localizing so I'll just add another center channel above my screen". Well that will work just fine if you are laying on the floor or the ceiling, but it won't improve jack at the listening position. You are just angry that I use science, reseach, and testing to deflate your so called "experience".

This trip you are taking on the high road is the epitome of hypocrisy. You are a coward that throws rocks, and then play victim just like Hyfi does. Watching you two flail is amusing, and reminds that I am looking at Stu and Pid at work. Your trip on the high road is false and fake, not to mention transparent. Blaming me for the problems of this website is positively stupid. No one person can destroy a website, it takes many of which you are a part of. That is deflection on steroids - look at somebody else's actions, don't look at mine. You cannot be a victim and a perpetrator at the same time. You lecture me about my actions, but have you ever evaluated your own? No you haven't as you are so busy pointing elsewhere.

The best way to handle the issues of this website is to pay attention to the things you say, and stop telling other people how to act and what to say. If you don't bait people by insulting their intelligence, then there is no repercussions. Nothing begats nothing. You cannot change anyone, and that is not your role here. Everyone here(well except you and Hyfi) has a distinct personality, and you have to accept that PERIOD. If you cannot then really it is too damn bad. Some people are candy coaters, and some people are just plain direct and to the point. You need to get out of the tea toting pinkie up country club mindset you have invented in your head and get out in the real world.

These are my last words to you. I don't care about YOU, its your words you post here that I am interested in. There are people here I do care about deeply(Worf, FA, Woochifer and many others), and we have never had a tiff EVER. If I go over the top, they check me privately. I respect what these folks have to say to me. You on the other hand mean absolutely nothing to me, and because of your piss poor delivery, and your judgmental attitude, I cannot, and do not respect anything you have to say. If that is okay with you, keep doing exactly what you are doing now, and nothing will change. But the BS angle you are trying to paint by trying to sell the fact that I just attack unprovoked is a pile, and it does not fly. Give that up and move on to something else.

If you don't like what I say, steer clear of me. Hyfi is too stupid to follow this wise advice, prove that you are smarter than that fool.

[Hyfi]

Nobody here cares who T respects or doesn't. His respect means absolutely nothing and he proves continuously why he does not deserve any.

He can't even take the advice he just posted for himself. Accept people for who they are and if you don't like what is said, stay clear.

If he does not like that I baited him, he himself could take his so called high road and just ignore me. But he just can't do that and has a deep need to trash talk to make himself feel better.

I'm not staying clear of anything, certainly not an abusive trash takin cyber bully. The mods have already said they are fine with how he talks to others here so it will remain an unending drama for now.

[StevenSurprenant]

I betcha that T would back down in a heart beat if he had to face any one of us in the flesh. I suspect that he is giant on the net and a wimp in real life. BTW, have you noticed the times of day he posts? I don't think he has a job. If he does, he doesn't do much there.

I have to tell you that his attacks don't bother me much any more, but his stupidity does. He actually thinks that I care what he says.

[Hyfi]

I betcha that T would back down in a heart beat if he had to face any one of us in the flesh. I suspect that he is giant on the net and a wimp in real life. BTW, have you noticed the times of day he posts? I don't think he has a job. If he does, he doesn't do much there.

I have to tell you that his attacks don't bother me much any more, but his stupidity does. He actually thinks that I care what he says.

I call it "Little Man Syndrome"

If I was bothered, I would have faded away. But talk is cheap and he has lots of it.

I am far from a violent person but if spoken to in person the way he talks here, one would be having surgery to remove the bridge of their nose from their pea sized brain.