Okay, I am sick of hearing about lip syncing

[noddin0ff]

I finally watched and listened to the performance for the first time, and there is no way she is lip sync'ing. I can hear the EQ they had on the microphone. It sounded kind of hollow, like the system was at the onset of feedback, or just bad EQ on her voice. On top of that, there is absolutely no latency between her lips, and the background track. On every music video I have ever mixed, there is latency between the lips and the track. Directors keep the visuals moving to cover this up.

What she did in essence was use a music background track that she had pre-recorded, and probably practiced to. She was probably more comfortable with that, than a live Band she has never rehearsed with.

What difference does it make stupid, it was her performance in the first place. She did sing the song on the recording that she lip sync'd to. Does that fact escape your air head?

I have told you this before, and I will tell this to you again. GO SCREW YOURSELF NUMBNUTZ...or better yet, NONUTZ!

I know you guys have a 'history' and all. But, geez T. Don't you think this could of been a good moment to just say 'Huh. I was wrong.' And gracefully move on? You're the one who put their expertise on the line.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

I know you guys have a 'history' and all. But, geez T. Don't you think this could of been a good moment to just say 'Huh. I was wrong.' And gracefully move on? You're the one who put their expertise on the line.

This idiot makes this statement Yeah right. Guess someone needs glasses and a hearing aid. and you come after me? Wow, you talk about unfair. When you make a statement like that, you deserve what comes at you. There was no reason for that statement PERIOD.

[Hyfi]

This idiot makes this statement Yeah right. Guess someone needs glasses and a hearing aid. and you come after me? Wow, you talk about unfair. When you make a statement like that, you deserve what comes at you. There was no reason for that statement PERIOD.

Who's crying now?

Hit a little too close to home old man?

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Who's crying now?

Hit a little too close to home old man?

And you wonder why your stupid azz gets cussed out. Look A-hole, furl that empty head up and stuff it up your bum. As brainless are you are, that is the best use for it.

[noddin0ff]

This idiot makes this statement ...[edit]... and you come after me? Wow, you talk about unfair.

I figured between

Yeah right. Guess someone needs glasses and a hearing aid.

and

What difference does it make stupid ...[edit]...
I have told you this before, and I will tell this to you again. GO SCREW YOURSELF NUMBNUTZ...or better yet, NONUTZ!

...you might not want to get into a weighing of relative civility.

I certainly was not attempting to draw any equivalencies here. Simply stating, on the facts of whether or not there was lip syncing, you could have just laughed it off and said "Gee, I was wrong" and rolled with the joke regarding glasses and hearing - especially since you brought up you rested the proof of your conviction on your hearing and seeing abilities.

'Cause, in the end you were wrong. But, big whoop. I seldom go a day without being wrong on something. I don't go blaming others for it, though. If you can civilly admit error, people will stop persecuting you. easy peasy.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

I figured between



and



...you might not want to get into a weighing of relative civility.

I certainly was not attempting to draw any equivalencies here. Simply stating, on the facts of whether or not there was lip syncing, you could have just laughed it off and said "Gee, I was wrong" and rolled with the joke regarding glasses and hearing - especially since you brought up you rested the proof of your conviction on your hearing and seeing abilities.

'Cause, in the end you were wrong. But, big whoop. I seldom go a day without being wrong on something. I don't go blaming others for it, though. If you can civilly admit error, people will stop persecuting you. easy peasy.

Do you realize that you cannot tell anyone how to respond to anything? Have you noticed that in 18 years of posting on this site I have never told ANYONE how to respond to anything? You respond how you want to, and I will do the same. When we start telling people to respond how we would, you are saying your way of responding is the only way right. Sorry, but as "uncivil" as I am, I am not that arrogant.

The fact is, the public heard a recording. The reality is, the singer HAS to breathe correctly, and they have to actually sing whether they are heard or not. If they don't, the latency between the recording and their lips would be huge. As I said in my first post, in the end it really does not matter. One way or another we heard Beyonce sing.

Lastly, I don't really care about your judgement of whether I was right or wrong. This dog piling is boring, and I am through with this subject.

[noddin0ff]

Do you realize that you cannot tell anyone how to respond to anything? Have you noticed that in 18 years of posting on this site I have never told ANYONE how to respond to anything?

You respond how you want to, and I will do the same. When we start telling people to respond how we would, you are saying your way of responding is the only way right. Sorry, but as "uncivil" as I am, I am not that arrogant.

Um. Wanna pause and think about that claim? Here's one reminder from a couple days ago in reply to new member oscar22 who explained why he wasn't going to upgrade his receiver

When you ask people for help, it is not wise to dismiss the advice that is given -especially if it is sound and wise. If you do, it make people less likely to help you again.

Sounds arrogant to me, and I'm a long time fan of your informative and helpful posts. You bring a lot of grounded experience to the site and held ground for years against audio mumbo-jumbo. Fan though I am, I'm coming around to the view that your occasional belligerent and arrogant outbursts are hurting AR in general. Rather than hash out my views on abusive posts here in forums, I'm just going to start flagging and reporting them to mods. And, I will do so to any similar posts that others make. I hope people will do the same to my posts when I cross the line. The mods should step in more frequently. Maybe if more people report and flag their job would be easier. The site will get better and new members won't be discouraged.

The fact is, the public heard a recording. The reality is...

The fact is

1/ you started a thread about how you don't care if a performance was lipsynced.

2/ You then claimed upon viewing that there was "no way" the performance was lip synced and you laid your professional acumen on the line to back up your opinion.

3/ You were wrong

4/ You were unable to take a joke or, with good humor, admit you erred.

5/ If there is any dog piling it is because you blew hard on the dog whistle.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Um. Wanna pause and think about that claim? Here's one reminder from a couple days ago in reply to new member oscar22 who explained why he wasn't going to upgrade his receiver



Sounds arrogant to me, and I'm a long time fan of your informative and helpful posts. You bring a lot of grounded experience to the site and held ground for years against audio mumbo-jumbo. Fan though I am, I'm coming around to the view that your occasional belligerent and arrogant outbursts are hurting AR in general. Rather than hash out my views on abusive posts here in forums, I'm just going to start flagging and reporting them to mods. And, I will do so to any similar posts that others make. I hope people will do the same to my posts when I cross the line. The mods should step in more frequently. Maybe if more people report and flag their job would be easier. The site will get better and new members won't be discouraged.



The fact is

1/ you started a thread about how you don't care if a performance was lipsynced.

2/ You then claimed upon viewing that there was "no way" the performance was lip synced and you laid your professional acumen on the line to back up your opinion.

3/ You were wrong

4/ You were unable to take a joke or, with good humor, admit you erred.

5/ If there is any dog piling it is because you blew hard on the dog whistle.

Give it up man. Go find a hobby, go walk the dog, go get a facelift or something. I don't care what you think, I never have, and I never will.

When will you hard heads realize this?

[StevenSurprenant]

I'm coming around to the view that your occasional belligerent and arrogant outbursts are hurting AR in general. Rather than hash out my views on abusive posts here in forums, I'm just going to start flagging and reporting them to mods. And, I will do so to any similar posts that others make... The mods should step in more frequently. Maybe if more people report and flag their job would be easier. The site will get better and new members won't be discouraged.

That sounds like a very good idea. I think many of us step outside the bounds of reasonable discourse from time to time, and many times in response to being badgered. While a little negative bantering is tolerable, some jump at the chance to engage in personal assaults and do so frequently. I agree about the damage caused by this type of behavior.

There has to be a way for the moderators to determine who goes too far without over moderation. Perhaps a solution would be to record the number of flags given over a period of time, by how many different people, and over a set number of postings and use that to determine who is abusing the system. Once that number is reached, ban that person for a period of time. If they come back and continue to act the same way, ban them again for a longer period. The third time, ban them for life.

I'm just saying...

[Hyfi]

That sounds like a very good idea. I think many of us step outside the bounds of reasonable discourse from time to time, and many times in response to being badgered. While a little negative bantering is tolerable, some jump at the chance to engage in personal assaults and do so frequently. I agree about the damage caused by this type of behavior.

There has to be a way for the moderators to determine who goes too far without over moderation. Perhaps a solution would be to record the number of flags given over a period of time, by how many different people, and over a set number of postings and use that to determine who is abusing the system. Once that number is reached, ban that person for a period of time. If they come back and continue to act the same way, ban them again for a longer period. The third time, ban them for life.

I'm just saying...

Steve, I am guilty at times but some people take every chance they can. Below is just a quick sampling of recent respectful posting.

Give it up man. Go find a hobby, go walk the dog, go get a facelift or something. I don't care what you think, I never have, and I never will.
When will you hard heads realize this?

Just go away already....sheesh!

It is amusing that you are as stupid as you are........

And you wonder why your stupid azz gets cussed out. Look A-hole, furl that empty head up and stuff it up your bum. As brainless are you are, that is the best use for it.


If there is any way to stuff your head up your own bum, do it. Don't lecture me fool

What difference does it make stupid, it was her performance in the first place. She did sing the song on the recording that she lip sync'd to. Does that fact escape your air head?

No simpleton, that is not true at all.

And apparently trying not to be a airhead for any amount of time is impossible for ya

Man, comparing a Sony television to a Vizio and concluding the Sony is better must have been exhausting.

It would take your stupid ass to come up with this bull$hit.

Great, now go screw yourself....

The coward I invision you are runs faster.

Good...then go screw yourself......

And here is my demonstation of how I lost respect for you. Go screw yourself......

Mr. Don't know what he is talking about also stikes again.

Excuse me fool, but

It is interesting that stupid $hit has the same first letters as your moniker.

You should have listened to your mother before it costs you a friend. In the future, I will be sure to disrespect your beliefs as profoundly as you have disrespected mine.

You are showing yourself to be a narrow minded judgemental prick.

RG=Regurgitated
A=out of the A$$
This is what I think of this illogical twisted pile of BS.

See a pattern here?