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[Feanor]

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There is a big problem with applying Levitical law to behavior today. The Levitical laws are known as moral codes that govern Jews, not Christians. ...

Blah, blah, blah. Nice try, Sir T, however these are the sort of post facto rationals that "liberal" Christians concoct to justify current notions of morality.

I say this as an atheist to be sure, but if you don't like the despicable things the Bible says, then just give it up, don't try to rationalize it.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Blah, blah, blah. Nice try, Sir T, however these are the sort of post facto rationals that "liberal" Christians concoct to justify current notions of morality.

I say this as an atheist to be sure, but if you don't like the despicable things the Bible says, then just give it up, don't try to rationalize it.

I don't believe I addressed whether I liked or disliked what the Bible says. I did address the context that quotations and usage should be applied. As an Atheist, you should have ZERO opinion on all this..none of it is real to you.

[Hyfi]

I don't believe I addressed whether I liked or disliked what the Bible says. I did address the context that quotations and usage should be applied. As an Atheist, you should have ZERO opinion on all this..none of it is real to you.

Sorry but I have to jump back in here. Just because one does not believe in something that is not visible, tangible, and logical does not mean that they do not have enough education and supporting data to have an opinion of it.

You only believe it to be true but in no way can anyone prove that it is true or real, that is why it is a belief system and not reality as we know it.

As Mark said to me, this is no different than a cable argument except with cables you can see them, touch and feel them, and hear the reproduced sound delivered from them. With religion, you cannot see anything, and you will never know if it was true or real until you are dead and it's too late to change your mind.

So putting the religion debate vs a cable debate, you would say that every person that does not BELIEVE that cables sound different or change the sound from their system has no right to have an opinion about it. Boy I wish that were so.

All of you quoting scripture cannot prove in any way what happened then, what was said back then, whether the truth has been changed, skewed, translated properly or that any of it is anything more than just a belief that it's true. God did not write the bible and what is quoted in red as Jesus actual words is pure speculation and again will never be proved.

Now if you want to argue that the bible IS the word of god, then everything ever written is the word of god because everyone of us is god experiencing the physical world through man (and woman). We are all one, same spirit, same dna, same everything except individual bodies which just makes things easier for Humans to rationalize.

This debate will have no ending until each one of us dies, in the physical earthy form, and finds out whether we go back to the all knowing spirit, or rot with the worms 6 feet under.

[Feanor]

I don't believe I addressed whether I liked or disliked what the Bible says. I did address the context that quotations and usage should be applied. As an Atheist, you should have ZERO opinion on all this..none of it is real to you.

On the contrary, I'm perfectly entitled to an opinion. However unreal the underlying fact of the existence of God might be, the religious history, dogma, and polemic are all too real.

[Hyfi]

So here is what I don't get. We have two people in this thread competing as to who can quote the bible better and who is the real true christian.

Oddly enough, there are only two people trash talking and name calling in this thread.

The rest of us, no matter how opinionated have been tolerant and somewhat respectful, even if passionate to a fault.

So the rest of us skeptics and non-believers have been acting in the way Christians teach of Jesus life and how we should all act.

This is one of the reasons so many people are turning away from the church or whatever organized religion they have belonged to.

This below is just from half a page of one of the top true Christians here that are tolerant, forgiving, cheeky turning hypocrites. Maybe provoked, but where is the forgiveness and compassion for others?

"Quote -Sir T >azzhole, Your stupid ass, you are pathetic, stuff them straight up your sorry butt, Your sorry ass can't even follow your own advice,
Peabrain, peahead, bitter revengeful pathetic fool you are , Beezle bub, <

Real nice christian talk. You should really take a good look at who you want people to see you as, good hearted christian is very questionable for both