Islam: Our Partners in Peace...

[JohnMichael]

Having been in a spiritual state during an out of body experience I know there is life after the death of the body. Since I have seen ghosts I know other souls have continued after the death of the body. During my spiritual state I was at peace and had no fears of the physical world. Therefore I believe and know we have a soul.

During my time free of my body I had no sense of a god. Of course that may only come after the death of the body. After being in a spiritual state I began to recognize how many models of god attributed him with many petty human charateristics. The God I think of is beyond human understanding.

I do not believe in prayer since none have ever been answered. If God was a loving and vengeful god lighting bolts should have been delivered. I agree that God put things in motion for those that live but we should never tell children that god will help.

This is what I believe and what I do not. I do not believe in the judeo/christian model of god. I need to think of God as above the human traits he is accused of having. That model of god is truly a reflection of the people who created him.

[Feanor]

Having been in a spiritual state during an out of body experience I know there is life after the death of the body. Since I have seen ghosts I know other souls have continued after the death of the body. During my spiritual state I was at peace and had no fears of the physical world. Therefore I believe and know we have a soul.
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Out-of-body experience are pretty common and follow a typical pattern. Needless to say there is no substantial evidence that they are anything but brain chemistry.

What bothers me about accounts like your, JM, is that people rely on their "feelings" to tell them what is true, i.e. factual. I utterly reject the notion of "subjective truth". We must continually question everything beginning with ourselves.

What do I believe in? One thing only: skepticism.

[JohnMichael]

Out-of-body experience are pretty common and follow a typical pattern. Needless to say there is no substantial evidence that they are anything but brain chemistry.

What bothers me about accounts like your, JM, is that people rely on their "feelings" to tell them what is true, i.e. factual. I utterly reject the notion of "subjective truth". We must continually question everything beginning with ourselves.

What do I believe in? One thing only: skepticism.

When I floated up out of my body for the first time and perceived myself on the bed my first emotion was what the hell did I do now. Then the sense of peace settled in to my being. I am glad I am not a skeptic. I would have missed much of the magic of life.