Islam: Our Partners in Peace...

[nightflier]

Wild goose chase? Hardly, it's pretty plain in your posts: your fear-mongering about the spread of Islam smacks of the same extreme views that were used to justify the most heinous crimes of the last century. The whites against the blacks in South Africa, the Turks against the Armenians, the Khmer Rouge against the Buddhists, the Chinese government against Tibetans, The Japanese against the Koreans, and yes, the Nazis against Jews and "Slavic peoples". It's scapegoating of the worst kind and you're slipping down a very slippery slope with those statements. The part about fornicating our way out of it, is certainly not original, either. It's been said before and with horrid consequences.

More importantly, your opinions create hysteria about something that is truly very remote. The idea that we will one day have Sharia law here in the States is ludicrous. Likewise, the idea that Sharia law will be the law of the land in Britain is also extremely distant. I've been to England, talked to people there, read the papers, and while there are certainly concerns about the growing Muslim population, they are still only a small percentage:

Total population = just under 50M
Muslim population = 2.4M

By the way, 85% of the people there are also white (Indo-European), in case that was bothering you, too. But this is a broad brush, we're painting with, because of those 2.4M Muslims, only a small portion practice or agree with Sharia law, and an even smaller number believe in violent terrorism as a means of advancing their beliefs. And by small number, I'm talking about an extremely small fraction of the Muslim population. As a matter of fact, the British security forces have been relying heavily on cooperation from secular Muslims and they have done a remarkable job of policing their own extremists. There are still terrorist attacks, yes, but they hardly represent the views or methods of the vast majority of Muslims there.

Let's also remember that the event described in the original post did not occur in England at all. It occurred in the Sudan, which is not only a country at war, but a good portion of that war is being waged between Christians and Muslims. This fact must also be on the minds of the people involved, from the victims all the way up to the judges and the government and therefore affects their decisions. I'm sure if we went to any other war-torn place around the world (there are lots to choose from, these days), we would find some pretty objectionable cruelty there as well.

Therefore, I consider your point of view, not only extreme, but also incendiary. Now I'm not saying you don't have a right to your opinion about it, but by the same token your post also should be responded to with actual facts rather than hysteria. When it comes to Religion, history has shown us over & over again that the most effective and lasting solution is a peaceful one. A call to arms isn't going to do anything but light the proverbial powederkeg. This is not a liberal point of view, BTW, it is a factual one.

[markw]

Geez, you sure do love to dig up irrelevant bullshiite and try to throw it at people, don't ya?

It's amazing at how you ignore what doesn't suit you and you just go on digging up more random crap, sorta like the energizer bunny of bullshiite,

Look how well you're doing with mexicans in southern california. Who runs that again?

[bobsticks]

By the way, 85% of the people there are also white (Indo-European), in case that was bothering you, too. But this is a broad brush, we're painting with, because of those 2.4M Muslims, only a small portion practice or agree with Sharia law, and an even smaller number believe in violent terrorism as a means of advancing their beliefs. And by small number, I'm talking about an extremely small fraction of the Muslim population. As a matter of fact, the British security forces have been relying heavily on cooperation from secular Muslims and they have done a remarkable job of policing their own extremists. There are still terrorist attacks, yes, but they hardly represent the views or methods of the vast majority of Muslims there.

Strangely, i find myself in alignment with 'flier on this one. I have known a great many people that were of the Muslim faith and very few came close to observing the strict laws of "proper Shiara" (and I agree with T that it has largely ben perverted to meet the political needs of certain leaders)

That occurance in Britain needs to be one that is replicated throughout the world. If there is one criticism that can be levied against moderate Muslims it's their reluctance to stand against the extremist fringe.