Islam: Our Partners in Peace...

[3LB]

so we're ultimately worried about absorption or expulsion of one culture into/by another...to combat it, we could have more kids, and lead lives condusive to affording and supporting lotsa kids (got it), but if we can't, for some reason, have lotsa kids, could we maybe support others who are willing to do so, through some sort of public funding...we could call it...welfare...oh the irony of it all

does this mean we have to go to church too? cuz I don't want to - the message is boring and the music sucks.

I cannot think of any country that is under muslim control as being any place for a non-muslim or a woman to live safely.

You are right there, because western civilization is a much safer place for women. You'll never see a woman flogged in an official capacity here. Soooo...how much higher is the rate of sexually based crimes against women in Islamic countries?

and just to set the record straight, I do not support or condone sharia law - I like women in pants, preferrably jeans.

[markw]

so we're ultimately worried about absorption or expulsion of one culture into/by another...to combat it, we could have more kids, and lead lives condusive to affording and supporting lotsa kids (got it), but if we can't, for some reason, have lotsa kids, could we maybe support others who are willing to do so, through some sort of public funding...we could call it...welfare...oh the irony of it all

Unfortunately, when a self-replicating welfare society is created, you just wind up with mindless hordes of people who simply take from society. These people are socially and morally ambivilent and add nothing to society.They don't care about anything until the handout sstop and reality whacks them upside the head with a 2x4. By then it's too late.

does this mean we have to go to church too? cuz I don't want to - the message is boring and the music sucks.

You don't have to now, do you? But, should the worst happen, I doubt you will either. You'll just have to live by their religious laws interperted in the most brutal way possible. Oh, unless you DO go to their "church", you'll be treated as a second-class citizen, and have to pay extra for the privelege. Oh, don't forget to kneel towards Mecca several times daily...

You are right there, because western civilization is a much safer place for women. You'll never see a woman flogged in an official capacity here. Soooo...how much higher is the rate of sexually based crimes against women in Islamic countries?

Remember, it's not always reported. Why would a woman want to report it? They are always responsible for it happening and are punished. And, why would men bother? Add to that that men are allowed to "force" their women to have sex on demand.

So, it's not quite the the black and white question you think. Nice try, though.

[bobsticks]

Unfortunately, when a self-replicating welfare society is created, you just wind up with mindless hordes of people who simply take from society. These people are socially and morally ambivilent and add nothing to society.They don't care about anything until the handout sstop and reality whacks them upside the head with a 2x4. By then it's too late.

The same could probably be said true of past generations that have knowingly, and willingly, mortgaged the financial futures of their descendents.