If Romney gets in which country will America start a war with next?

[Hyfi]

I am still unsure why asking why and how people can believe certain stories with absolutely no proof they ever happened or happened the way they are told or if we are supposed to believe them word for word or that they mean something else......is disrespecting someone's religion. We don't even know what religion the complainer is anyway.

I never said anyone was wrong for believing, I just question how and ask for an explanation of how certain stories could have ever happened the way they were written.

I never told anyone they should not have faith and believe whatever they think they need to believe.

So how having a discussion, asking for real answers to questions, and pointing out flaws in the theory is disrespecting ones religion eludes me.

And why do Christians think their religion is the only right one? That disrespects ALL other religions.

All religions are just different pathways to the same end, a glorious afterlife or whatever one chooses to believe.

Buddha allegedly said many of the same things Jesus allegedly said but many years before Jesus was born. Many other religions existed before Christianity so why are they all wrong and only Christians are now right?

And as for reverse disrespect, go back and read many of Mark's entries back to Feanor, RGA and myself. We have been totally disrespected for not believing what he believes. But that is OK I guess.

Yeah, I went too far and called Mark (and myself for that matter) an inbred. He pushed my buttons. I will try not to let that happen again.

[Feanor]

I am still unsure why asking why and how people can believe certain stories with absolutely no proof they ever happened or happened the way they are told or if we are supposed to believe them word for word or that they mean something else......is disrespecting someone's religion. We don't even know what religion the complainer is anyway.
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This was certainly my question too. In fact I heard many religious people object to this questioning. When they are people who insist on objective information & reasoning in all other areas, it strikes me as a "special pleading" for religion. Does religion deserve this privilege? They say 'yes'; I say 'no'.

BTW, I meant no personal disrespect to the most recent complainer but, typical of these special pleaders, he chose to take insult from my purely intellectual position.

[Smokey]

And why do Christians think their religion is the only right one? That disrespects ALL other religions.

That is not exclusive to christianity as followers of other religions do the same thing. Jews say they are the chosen people and Muslims say they are the true believers. So who you are going to believe

All religions are just different pathways to the same end, a glorious afterlife or whatever one chooses to believe.

One really don't need [organized] religion beliefs to get to heaven as you will be judged by your actions, not your beliefs.

[Hyfi]

That is not exclusive to christianity as followers of other religions do the same thing. Jews say they are the chosen people and Muslims say they are the true believers. So who you are going to believe



One really don't need [organized] religion beliefs to get to heaven as you will be judged by your actions, not your beliefs.

Preaching to the choir on both points, Smokey. I don't believe any of them but was just making a point because disrespect was pointed at me by a hypocrite who by being one, disses the others by the belief they have.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Preaching to the choir on both points, Smokey. I don't believe any of them but was just making a point because disrespect was pointed at me by a hypocrite who by being one, disses the others by the belief they have.

Excuse me fool, but I have not criticized anyone for not believing in God. I don't do that, it is not how I roll. But you were dissing religions, a profound personal thing that in the end disses the person that do believe in God(whoever that is for the individual) So your weak attempts at deflecting are rebuffed.

Nobody disrespected you, you did that to yourself by negatively commenting on peoples religion. That was stupid, but not above you at all.

Sometimes the wisdom if discussing personal ideaology is stronger than the right to do so. I am sorry you are too stupid to see this.

[GMichael]

I think the steel cage is bending.

[markw]

You got it.

That's all this site is worth anymore.

You've taken what used to be an audio site and made it a septic tank full of haters..

Proud of yourself?

[Feanor]

You got it.

That's all this site is worth anymore.

You've taken what used to be an audio site and made it a septic tank full of haters..

Proud of yourself?

Same advice to you as to the Terrible Terrence: if you get all hurt & offended by a philosophical discussion of personal religiosity, don't participate -- and don't berate those who can handle it.

[markw]

Same advice to you as to the Terrible Terrence: if you get all hurt & offended by a philosophical discussion of personal religiosity, don't participate -- and don't berate those who can handle it.

You're just a frail old man who lives thanks to pills and will most likely be the first one to test your theory about a god or no god.

I hope you're ready to face your time like a manly man, not whining like so many others when the rubber meets the road.

Y'all are like the monkeys at the zoo: Flinging poo and jerking off so all can see because that's all you can do to express yourselves, and you're proud of it.

[Feanor]

You're just a frail old man who lives thanks to pills and will most likely be the first one to test your theory about a god or no god.

I hope you're ready to face your time like a manly man, not whining like so many others when the rubber meets the road.

Y'all are like the monkeys at the zoo: Flinging poo and jerking off so all can see because that's all you can do to express yourselves, and you're proud of it.

markw remains true to form.