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    RGA....i wont say much and this is my last response to these religious postings. You have mentioned on more than one occasion the age of the universe. The bible says God created it all in 6 days. Modern scientist say according to their testing it is millions and perhaps billions of years old.Who is correct? Man or ancient manuscripts? Let me ask you a question if I may? The bible says God created Adam the first man. How old was he? You see my point? It doesn't seem as if Adam was an infant at creation. With the responsibilities God gave him, it would seem Adam had to be created as an adult....certainly he was not a child with a woman running around without clothing and after the fall told to populate the earth. So my point.....The universe, created in 6 days, could have been created with age....millions or billions of years old at creation...and if that is so, or a possibility, no matter what age it has, or is, surely it did not just magically appear out of some gas that was just floating around in spce by itself and then just decided to explode into what we all see and enjoy today....something out of nothing. No....it had to have all been placed there by an ultimate designer. The gas floating around, the explosion, the universe, the animals and mankind....it all had to come from something, its called cause and effect.....it all points to an intelligent designer......and have you ever wondered where the space that contained the gas and all that came forth out of it, came from? It too had to be put there. I know who put it there....do you? Look at your hands....your feet....think about your heart inside your chest and how it works....how the sun comes up and warms the earth, or the rain and how it washes the earth, or the tree that grows oranges that taste so sweet. You think that all happened by chance? I dont see how it could have....its takes more faith to believe in chance than it does in a n Intelligent Designer. ..and the proof is right there before you in your science, but you refuse to see it. Well I wont. I am not saying you have to believe in the God of the bible, but to say its all just chance is putting your head in the sand my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frenchmon View Post
    RGA....i wont say much and this is my last response to these religious postings. You have mentioned on more than one occasion the age of the universe. The bible says God created it all in 6 days. Modern scientist say according to their testing it is millions and perhaps billions of years old.Who is correct? Man or ancient manuscripts? Let me ask you a question if I may? The bible says God created Adam the first man. How old was he? You see my point? It doesn't seem as if Adam was an infant at creation. With the responsibilities God gave him, it would seem Adam had to be created as an adult....certainly he was not a child with a woman running around without clothing and after the fall told to populate the earth. So my point.....The universe, created in 6 days, could have been created with age....millions or billions of years old at creation...and if that is so, or a possibility, no matter what age it has, or is, surely it did not just magically appear out of some gas that was just floating around in spce by itself and then just decided to explode into what we all see and enjoy today....something out of nothing. No....it had to have all been placed there by an ultimate designer. The gas floating around, the explosion, the universe, the animals and mankind....it all had to come from something, its called cause and effect.....it all points to an intelligent designer......and have you ever wondered where the space that contained the gas and all that came forth out of it, came from? It too had to be put there. I know who put it there....do you? Look at your hands....your feet....think about your heart inside your chest and how it works....how the sun comes up and warms the earth, or the rain and how it washes the earth, or the tree that grows oranges that taste so sweet. You think that all happened by chance? I dont see how it could have....its takes more faith to believe in chance than it does in a n Intelligent Designer. ..and the proof is right there before you in your science, but you refuse to see it. Well I wont. I am not saying you have to believe in the God of the bible, but to say its all just chance is putting your head in the sand my friend.

    No need to respond....I am truly done. I will see you when you write some of those wonderful postings about audio...they stimulate my thinking, unlike your postings on faith, science and the bible.
    The wonders of the human body, etc., came about isn't resolved by insisting that God or some other "intelligent designer" created them. And that's because of the old, reductive logic: who created the God or the intelligent designer? One cannot respond the God or the designer always existed, because if she or he always existed, then why not the universe itself and its laws?

    There is no issue of higher life forms coming about "by chance". It wasn't by chance: evolution is a process that follows its own logical rules, and though chance plays a part, it's only a part of the process

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    I find it interesting that humans as they evolve created new gods as they better understood their world. Humans did not understand thunder so let us have a god of thunder. I am sure Egyptians, Romans and Greeks would have felt as strongly about their gods. In mythology a god would impregnate a mortal woman to create a demi-god. Does that sound familiar. As we continue to learn and discover many are leaving churches.
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