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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyfi View Post
    Even if he did speak about it, it would have been edited out just like all the other stuff they changed to make it the greatest story ever told.


    I find it interesting to read Gospels that were not chosen to be in the bible. The Dead Sea Scrolls are quite interesting for the information they contain. The scrolls tell a slightly different story. I have always enjoyed biblical history even though I am not a believer. The TV shows I enjoy are the ones who try to find out what really happened such as Noah and his Ark. I think there is a lot of hyperbole in the bible. I do agree with what Jesus taught and try to follow his example. I find I do not need church or religion to live that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMichael View Post
    I find it interesting to read Gospels that were not chosen to be in the bible. The Dead Sea Scrolls are quite interesting for the information they contain. The scrolls tell a slightly different story. I have always enjoyed biblical history even though I am not a believer. The TV shows I enjoy are the ones who try to find out what really happened such as Noah and his Ark. I think there is a lot of hyperbole in the bible. I do agree with what Jesus taught and try to follow his example. I find I do not need church or religion to live that way.
    I have the book of the scrolls. They also contain books that ARE in the Bible but are written way differently than how they were edited for inclusion into the bible.

    It was all manipulated to read the way it does as a basis for controlling the masses and all the made up rituals and beliefs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyfi View Post
    I have the book of the scrolls. They also contain books that ARE in the Bible but are written way differently than how they were edited for inclusion into the bible.

    It was all manipulated to read the way it does as a basis for controlling the masses and all the made up rituals and beliefs.

    We are in agreement. If I had to pick a favorite miracle from the bible it is the changing of water into wine. I hope a little bit every time I turn on the cold water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMichael View Post
    We are in agreement. If I had to pick a favorite miracle from the bible it is the changing of water into wine. I hope a little bit every time I turn on the cold water.
    That is a funny one, the whole deal is that when wine was stored in the containers, it leached into the porous material. When they added water into the containers, some of the wine and sediments leached back out into the water and they called it wine. It was no miracle, just what would normally happen anytime you add water to a container that is porous and previously contained something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyfi View Post
    That is a funny one, the whole deal is that when wine was stored in the containers, it leached into the porous material. When they added water into the containers, some of the wine and sediments leached back out into the water and they called it wine. It was no miracle, just what would normally happen anytime you add water to a container that is porous and previously contained something else.

    I find it interesting to learn what happened before men exaggerated it. In all fairness they may not have understood what happened but I always doubted that water turned instantly into wine. When he fed the masses with loaves and fishes were the fish smoked or did they eat sushi?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMichael View Post
    I find it interesting to learn what happened before men exaggerated it. In all fairness they may not have understood what happened but I always doubted that water turned instantly into wine. When he fed the masses with loaves and fishes were the fish smoked or did they eat sushi?
    Again it is all correspondences. Every sect had their own code or way of saying something which had another meaning or correspondence.

    What more than likely is the meaning is that they were taught to fish and bake bread and take care of themselves; more so than someone walked up and down the line of masses handing out a smelly fish and stale loaf of bread in one day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyfi View Post
    Again it is all correspondences. Every sect had their own code or way of saying something which had another meaning or correspondence.

    What more than likely is the meaning is that they were taught to fish and bake bread and take care of themselves; more so than someone walked up and down the line of masses handing out a smelly fish and stale loaf of bread in one day.


    I know the bible is full of symbolism such as the numbers 7 and 40. In my readings I have never been a bible literalist.
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