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    Quote Originally Posted by frenchmon View Post
    Just as I thought...you missed the point of that posting entirely.
    No, I didn't. I just responded to your whining.

    FWIW, I was born in Newark (ever hear of that city?), live ten minutes away, married a woman of color from there, and still have family there. They know me and we've discussed this at length. They see my point and agree. Odds are they woud consider your post whining as well. They know the opportunities available.

    You want better? for "your people"?, Get that buffon in the WH go create real jobs for these people, not just give 'em food stamps and keep 'em dependent on the system.

    So, what WAS your point? Educate me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by markw View Post
    No, I didn't. I just responded to your whining.

    FWIW, I was born in Newark (ever hear of that city?), live ten minutes away, married a woman of color from there, and still have family there. They know me and we've discussed this at length. They see my point and agree. Odds are they woud consider your post whining as well. They know the opportunities available.

    You want better? for "your people"?, Get that buffon in the WH go create real jobs for these people, not just give 'em food stamps and keep 'em dependent on the system.

    So, what WAS your point? Educate me...
    Your are an idiot....I don't give a rats behind about who thinks im whinning......there are more whites on government aid than blacks. Tell me genius...whats your solution to the jobs problem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by frenchmon View Post
    Your are an idiot....I don't give a rats behind about who thinks im whinning......there are more whites on government aid than blacks. Tell me genius...whats your solution to the jobs problem?
    Well, perhaps not whining. More like hubris. Think about this: You may not have done it by yourself: Affirmative Action may have done it for you. Sound familiar? I just pointed out a hars reality that you might not want to hear, but that doesn't alter the fact that it exists.

    As for that bolded statement, you can't be serious, can you? And you say you made it all by yourself?

    Let's look at that statement, shall we?

    As for your statement, you're100% correct ...if we just look at the raw numbers.

    Welfare consists of 37% whites and only 35% blacks. There, you win.

    But, when we look at the overall population of the US where it's 72% white and 12% black, that sort of makes those raw numbers somewhat meaningless, doesn't it?

    Do I really have to do the math for you to show you the fallacy of your misleading comment? You really didn't expect to be called on it?

    Remember, frenchy, you're the one that made race/welfare the big issue here, not me, so don't give me shiite about this.

    BTW, this place is a already threshing floor for conservatives and Christians. It's nice of you to throw race into that morass.

    FWIW, as for the 2008 elections, of the blacks who voted, 96% voted for Obama. What would your statistics professor make of that?

    As for jobs, dunno offhand, but giving stimulus money only to have it used to create factories and jobs overseas (or to companies who go belly up shortly afterwards) by the recipients sure doesn't seem to be a great idea. Maybe give it to proven companies with a real chance of expansion that would be legally obligated to expand here and employ more Americans (as opposed to shaky green startups that just happened to be owned by Democratic bundlers)?

    A lot of new companies nee dtrained technical (not necessarially degreed) people to operate the new generation of manufacturing machines. How about giving that stimlilus money to these companies to partner with local schools to train the next generation of their workers instead of simply looking overseas for an H1B solution. Here's a good place to start. "
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    Quote Originally Posted by markw View Post
    Well, perhaps not whining. More like hubris. Think about this: You may not have done it by yourself: Affirmative Action may have done it for you. Sound familiar? I just pointed out a hars reality that you might not want to hear, but that doesn't alter the fact that it exists.

    As for that bolded statement, you can't be serious, can you? And you say you made it all by yourself?

    Let's look at that statement, shall we?

    As for your statement, you're100% correct ...if we just look at the raw numbers.

    Welfare consists of 37% whites and only 35% blacks. There, you win.

    But, when we look at the overall population of the US where it's 72% white and 12% black, that sort of makes those raw numbers somewhat meaningless, doesn't it?

    Do I really have to do the math for you to show you the fallacy of your misleading comment? You really didn't expect to be called on it?

    Remember, frenchy, you're the one that made race/welfare the big issue here, not me, so don't give me shiite about this.

    BTW, this place is a already threshing floor for conservatives and Christians. It's nice of you to throw race into that morass.

    FWIW, as for the 2008 elections, of the blacks who voted, 96% voted for Obama. What would your statistics professor make of that?

    As for jobs, dunno offhand, but giving stimulus money only to have it used to create factories and jobs overseas (or to companies who go belly up shortly afterwards) by the recipients sure doesn't seem to be a great idea. Maybe give it to proven companies with a real chance of expansion that would be legally obligated to expand here and employ more Americans (as opposed to shaky green startups that just happened to be owned by Democratic bundlers)?

    A lot of new companies nee dtrained technical (not necessarially degreed) people to operate the new generation of manufacturing machines. How about giving that stimlilus money to these companies to partner with local schools to train the next generation of their workers instead of simply looking overseas for an H1B solution. Here's a good place to start. "
    so from looking at your numbers of those on ware fair what does that tell you?
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    "ware fare"???

    Quote Originally Posted by frenchmon View Post
    so from looking at your numbers of those on ware fair what does that tell you?
    Look, if you've got nothing to say, please do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markw View Post
    Look, if you've got nothing to say, please do so.
    What difference does that make...when you say something that's worth giving an answer I will respond....so far with the numbers you ain't made a point.
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    Well now, you're a bright guy, aren't you?

    Quote Originally Posted by frenchmon View Post
    What difference does that make...when you say something that's worth giving an answer I will respond....so far with the numbers you ain't made a point.
    If so, you should be able to interpert those numbers and see how foolish they make your initial statement about welfare recipients is.

    Anybody with fairly rudimentary math skills could see the point I was making.

    After all, you made it all the way up the corporate ladder based purely on your brains, right? This should be a snap!

    Remember, you brought it up, not me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markw View Post
    Look, if you've got nothing to say, please do so.
    The point I was try to get you to see is blacks are hired far less than whites. Thus the numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frenchmon View Post
    The point I was try to get you to see is blacks are hired far less than whites. Thus the numbers.
    Could that just be an issue of logistics? There are nowhere near the same number of Blacks vs Whites in the US so it would appear always that whites are hired more. Just sayin....

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