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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyfi View Post
    I know this is going to come off as racist but I'm gonna say it anyway because I think it's true.

    If you don't believe that the a large portion of the black population voted for Obama because he was black, you live under a rock.

    It is absolutely no different than when they added Sarah Palin to the ticket to draw the female vote. The only problem with that move was she is an idiot and even most of the women in the US could see that.
    I don't think your comment was racist, it was ignorant and fact less. Can you show me some proof your statement is true?

    I know a lot of black people, and I mean A LOT. The vote Democrat most certainly, but they don't vote a skin color or race. What you think is true may not be true at all. Unless you can show me some stat's or survey that say's your "truth" is true - then it is just "truth" that lies between your own ears.

    Remember Herman Cain was black, and so is Clarence Thomas, do you see blacks flocking to them? Hell no!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible View Post

    Remember Herman Cain was black
    I don't have your survey and one was probably not taken.

    Herman Cain is a corrupt moron, Obama is not. And, As far as I am concerned, Obama is not black, he is Half White.

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    Well, Herman Cain may serve as a bad example, but the combination of a black presidential nominee AND his democratic party affiliation may explain record minority voter turn out in 2008. I think this provides some merit to Hyfi's argument. Do I really need to reference a specific source here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by texlle View Post
    Well, Herman Cain may serve as a bad example, but the combination of a black presidential nominee AND his democratic party affiliation may explain record minority voter turn out in 2008. I think this provides some merit to Hyfi's argument. Do I really need to reference a specific source here?
    Dissecting the 2008 Electorate: Most Diverse in U.S. History | Pew Hispanic Center

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/21/us...cs/21vote.html

    Passionate race drives a massive turnout - USATODAY.com

    I guess I could go on and on with links so my statements were not ignorant nor fact-less and anyone who wants to say otherwise still lives under a rock in a dream world.

    If both candidates were all white, you would have NEVER seen the record turnout among black voters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyfi View Post
    Dissecting the 2008 Electorate: Most Diverse in U.S. History | Pew Hispanic Center

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/21/us...cs/21vote.html

    Passionate race drives a massive turnout - USATODAY.com

    I guess I could go on and on with links so my statements were not ignorant nor fact-less and anyone who wants to say otherwise still lives under a rock in a dream world.

    If both candidates were all white, you would have NEVER seen the record turnout among black voters.
    Do you think the younger generation that never votes have anything to do with it? I say yes. Its a known fact that the young voters and college students turned out in record numbers for Obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texlle View Post
    Well, Herman Cain may serve as a bad example, but the combination of a black presidential nominee AND his democratic party affiliation may explain record minority voter turn out in 2008. I think this provides some merit to Hyfi's argument. Do I really need to reference a specific source here?

    Yes, I would like for you to reference a specific source that says all black people who voted for Obama did so because of his race. Black people are not stupid. His message of hope and change must have resonated with them as much as his race did, or Herman Cain would have gotten the same kind of support from Black folks.

    Not one of HiFy links point to Obama race as being the driving force for black to vote for him. But this was said of his support by blacks


    Obama's opposition to the Iraq war and plans to revive the economy were part of his appeal to blacks, along with "the emotional component" of helping him make history.
    Did anyone see race in any of that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible View Post
    Yes, I would like for you to reference a specific source that says all black people who voted for Obama did so because of his race. Black people are not stupid. His message of hope and change must have resonated with them as much as his race did, or Herman Cain would have gotten the same kind of support from Black folks.

    Not one of HiFy links point to Obama race as being the driving force for black to vote for him. But this was said of his support by blacks




    Did anyone see race in any of that?
    Good lord, you're taking my quote way way out of context here. I am not by any means whatsoever saying black people are stupid, nor am I saying Obama's race was responsible for every minority vote in the 2008 election. Although, I am inferring that much of the difference between the 2008 minority voter turn out and every single election year previously since the 15th amendment was enacted, was attributed by Obama's race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texlle View Post
    Good lord, you're taking my quote way way out of context here. I am not by any means whatsoever saying black people are stupid, nor am I saying Obama's race was responsible for every minority vote in the 2008 election. Although, I am inferring that much of the difference between the 2008 minority voter turn out and every single election year previously since the 15th amendment was enacted, was attributed by Obama's race.
    Good Lord, you need to prove your inference, or it is nothing more than something you crapped out of your bum, and on to this page. Make a one on one comparison that each black person who voted for Obama did so because of the color of his skin. Discount that Obama team voter registration efforts did not reflect minority voter participation as opposed to his race.

    Here is the reality my friend. Obama's team was just better at voter registration at all levels, and that was the major reason for a high minority voter turn out. Nobody in history has courted minorities or the young like Obama's team has. That is a fact. Ignore that reality in favor of race, then you have to provide proof that race played a major role in minority voter turn out. Otherwise, you think the black vote is monolithic, narrow minded, and ignorant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible View Post
    Good Lord, you need to prove your inference, or it is nothing more than something you crapped out of your bum, and on to this page. Make a one on one comparison that each black person who voted for Obama did so because of the color of his skin. Discount that Obama team voter registration efforts did not reflect minority voter participation as opposed to his race.

    Here is the reality my friend. Obama's team was just better at voter registration at all levels, and that was the major reason for a high minority voter turn out. Nobody in history has courted minorities or the young like Obama's team has. That is a fact. Ignore that reality in favor of race, then you have to provide proof that race played a major role in minority voter turn out. Otherwise, you think the black vote is monolithic, narrow minded, and ignorant.
    Sure makes you wonder exactly why the 08 Obama campaign focused so heavily on reaching out to the minority populous. Though I don't see the basis of being "better at voter registration" as ANY more substantial than the manner in which you regard mine. It's not your concern though, as a 1%-er, as you have reminded us numerous times. Must be good for your ego, which seems to be the only truth you've presented thus far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyfi View Post
    I don't have your survey and one was probably not taken.

    Herman Cain is a corrupt moron, Obama is not. And, As far as I am concerned, Obama is not black, he is Half White.
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