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    "My understanding of the problem with full-range speakers is that bass requires that the speakers are positioned in a different location in the room as opposed to the position where mids and highs sound best. Is this not the case?"

    Pulling speakers away from the wall behind them is yet one more way audiophiles use to try to overcome the miserable dispersion particularly at high frequecies of most speakers. By reducing early reflections at all frequencies, they mitigate the lack of them at higher frequencies to some degree but never completely. This is also the effect of the live end/dead end room treatment strategy. They may not know the technical reason why it works but it offers improvement increasing the relative high frequencey output by reducing reflected mid and low frequency reflections reaching them. However, besides being less than an ideal solution, this sacrifices the bass reinforcement which wall or corner placement offers.

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    Hey, Bill. I've built & bought speaker for over 35 years. Here's the whole thing in a nutshell. You want speakers to be able to perform a full range. Ideally from 20-20,000 Hz. If they only go down to about 50 hz, they'll sound cheap, and probalby will blow out by the time you get some good sound going. Even the biggest speakers will go down to around 30hz. Only a few will actually go down to 20Hz. My favorite is the Cerwin Vegas. My old Advents give excellent deep bass, but don't handle much power. So that's your starting point. Look for the lowest frequency response, then listen & compare.

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    Very nice question...but yet again a very stupid one Billb i know that you ask these questions about everything on this forum.

    There is no best speaker,there is no best amp in the world...BS. Do you know why? It's very simpel iff you listen to a genesis or a nautilus [the shell] these are brands and speakers that are considerd the best in the world...and the most expensive in the world. Do the sound great? Yes the do..is it worth 60000$ a speaker? uhhmm no. I can let you hear speakers that preform the same for less :-]

    You can understand what do you want for sound...it's all subjective ;-]
    Pre-amp: Mcintosh C26
    Poweramp: Mcintosh MC2105
    Source: Sony Xa50es modified
    Dual 503-1 turntable
    Speakers: Magnepan MG1 modified supertweeters.

    Furthermore

    Audiolab 480 poweramp, Infinity Qe, Sonus Faber Concertino, Dynaco ST80 (RARE) Tubeamplifier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranbunctious
    Hey, Bill. I've built & bought speaker for over 35 years. Here's the whole thing in a nutshell. You want speakers to be able to perform a full range. Ideally from 20-20,000 Hz. If they only go down to about 50 hz, they'll sound cheap, and probalby will blow out by the time you get some good sound going. Even the biggest speakers will go down to around 30hz. Only a few will actually go down to 20Hz. My favorite is the Cerwin Vegas. My old Advents give excellent deep bass, but don't handle much power. So that's your starting point. Look for the lowest frequency response, then listen & compare.

    Epsilon 20hz even 15 iff the servo is modified
    Nautilus 10hz
    and there are more...but to reach 20hz in a livingroom you will need one bigass room. I know that you americans like big [see infinity classics] There all big the IRS [2mtr in height 4 towers 12x12" woofers] nice **** you amercans have
    Pre-amp: Mcintosh C26
    Poweramp: Mcintosh MC2105
    Source: Sony Xa50es modified
    Dual 503-1 turntable
    Speakers: Magnepan MG1 modified supertweeters.

    Furthermore

    Audiolab 480 poweramp, Infinity Qe, Sonus Faber Concertino, Dynaco ST80 (RARE) Tubeamplifier.

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