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    Huh? Where'd that come from, RGA?

    I don't recall expressing any opinion as to which method (buying vs. building stands) is better. I think maybe you should read my post again...this person expressed interest in the possibility of building them himself, so I offered some suggestions.

    Truth be told, once you factor in labour, the economies aren't nearly as favourable for building stands compared to building speakers, but is still feasible. I assume you were referring to my posts several weeks ago about economies of building speakers...Well, even with assigning $20 or $30 per hour labor, the gap is disgustingly huge...DIY is more economical, unless you want to make your speaker look super pretty like a totem pole or something or don't already have the necessary tools (buying $2000 worth of power tools to make a speaker equivalent to a $2000 commercial speaker isn't exactly cost effective, but if you already have them...)

    But since YOU brought this up I will raise a few points:

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    Here you go again with only looking at the cost of material - I charge $20.87 an hour as a tutor - so sure I can build a $200.00 Cdn speaker stand by buying the materials as you suggest - but the RESPONSIBLE thing to do is to factor in the labour cost - $20.87 per hour + the time I have to go to the Hardware store to buy the materials (gas and wear and tear on my vehicle) and the cost of buying hammers screwdrivers and paint and machining equipment.
    This is fundamentally wrong...you must factor in the lost wages that WOULD have been earned, or whatever value you place on your FREE time, don't just assign $20.87 to your free time based on your job's current hourly wage (unless you've really sat down and figured out that an hour of free time is worth $20.87 to you)...I assume there is time that you don't tutor and aren't earning money, not every hour of your existance can be spent earning money, some can be spent saving money. For many people (possibly not you), the relaxation factor, hobby/enjoyment factor, and money saving factor would be well worth the decision to build instead of buy.

    Second...$20.87 an hour? That's more than teachers start at in BC, and several other provinces...way more than I got a few years back...I'd stick with that if I were you!!!

    Third some people have plenty of time to spare, but little extra money, in this case the decision to build, even at an equivalent hourly wage of $6 per hour could mean the difference between having stands and not...shame on you for not taking into consideration the financial realities of some people.

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    I don;t think $140.00US is obscene for these - I've seen $600.00 stands from the speaker makers that are pretty lousy in comparison. .
    Yep, that's what I liked about Skylan. And from time to time they can be had cheaper.

    Quote Originally Posted by RGA
    I've also seen some pretty pathetic target atacama and Lovan stands and stands at A&B sound that sell for more money which are pretty pathetic.
    Or the skinny, goofy steel poles that sony and bose sell...yuck...

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    Sorry Kex didn't read it clearly enough. $20.87 an hour but only 3 hours a week so this is not huge. Plus no benefits. A qualified teacher would get $25.00 to $30.00 an hour. 5th year ed students $250.00 for 12 hours.

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    Actually the BC Teacher's Pension Plan is one of my clients...I don't have exact figures but average salary of teachers was just over $60 K with 21.5 yrs of experience...aging group...not bad, still not enough IMO, but hopefully they get what they deserve. One the retirements start to hit and class sizes grow to 76 students you'll be in a pretty good position to cash in.

    Still want to go to Japan to teach?

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