I've listened to a great extent, Cary driving a pair of Dali Helicon 400 MK2. Nothing week about the Cary that I could tell. The Cary/Dali sounded great! I've too listened to Sonus Fiber...speakers aren't bad, but are a tad polite...I thought the Toy stand mount sounded better than the Toy floor standers. The Cremona really did not wow me...but you really never know about a speaker until you get it in your system, in your room. Its hard to say what they really are like until you get them out of the store into a real home.... .Revels are great speakers....