What are all you guys talking about Polks and Audio Notes and stuff? And what about measured performance? First of all that doesn't mean jack in the rooms you have at your place and second of all these things are nice to play when you want some background music at your diner table. If you want an orchestra smacked right in your living room you need surface, you need impact, sheer force and refinement. So I'm talking Genesis, Infinity IRS, Apogees, etc... and powered by someting equally impressive too. Since when are these mass-produced coffins you call speakers high-end? Those speakers aren't even full range to begin with. Best performance from 200 Hz up? What about below that?? I haven't heard a single new speaker in the last 10 years that had any decent bass. People tend to forget there's a lot of spacial info in that area too. Man, no wonder this business is going downhill... Before you ask, I'm not a snob, I also started small but I can't stand it when hifi is pretending to be high end. There's about lightyears between them...