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    So I guess what it ends up is whatever I enjoy the most is what matters the most. But I have listened to alot of speakers since back in 1999 and so far I liked JBL the most even today but just need to save money money before I get any like the JBL N24 plus I need to save at least $100 for a basic stereo receiver. So I will need around at least $200 unless I get a very good deal on Ebay for a used JBL N24 speakers. Saddly the affordable JBL series are discontinued and now with the JBL ES series it's too expensive for me to get a pair of new JBL speakers.


    But I still really like the Philips MMS321 speakers though. I would say I like the JBL speakers the most and second is the MMS321. The reason I like the Philips is since the highs sound like they have pure titanium dome tweeters having that metalic sound. Plus it has deep bass for such a compact speaker without a sub.

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    Oh I forgot the third speakers I like is the Cakewalk MA-7A since they has MAXXBASS feature and makes the speakers sound like they are bigger even they are only 3in and half inch woofer. Plus these are affordable around $100.

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    If the Philips make you very happy, then maybe you should get them. But if you can live with the speakers you already have for a while, I'd suggest hanging on to them instead and save your money for a bit. You might find that the next level will make you much happier.
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    In the past, you have found a set of speakers that you fall in love with. You buy them and either sell your old set at ½ value or store them somewhere. A few months later, you are no longer in love with those speakers and buy something else. Then you have another set of speakers to sell at ½ off or get stored & unused. This is an ineficient use of your money. Each time you do this, you are loosing money. I believe that if you were to hold off until you save enough to move to the next level, you may end up with speakers that you stay in love with much longer.
    It’s just my opinion, but I am trying to give you the best advice that I can.
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    True ture that is hows it's been for long time but I have had these speakers for 4 years so I must like them. But who knows how long they will last since any powered speakers get wear and tear you know. But when they stop working I will get the Cakewalk MA-7A or a pair of JBL N24 with a stereo receiver. I actualy might find a good deal on a receiver on Ebay. But eather way me getting the Cakewalk or JBL I will need to save money so if my Philips starts to act up or makes weird noise then I can just buy speakers right away. Btw Cakewalk MA-7A used to be Edirol MA-7A but now Cakewalk owns it but both are from Roland.

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    No.

    No no no.

    you are finally making some sense here, albeit not completely true, you're still a bit naive, but, we're getting somewhere.

    now, on your future "upgrading plans"

    now is about the time that you could start saving for something decent, it shouldn't even be something new, there are lots and lots of great second hand deals out there, for very reasonable price, you could look for a pair of decent bookshelf speakers, with a nice/reasonable amplifier...

    just for now, don't go out and buy yet another pair of pc speakers again...

    We'll guide you if you want to

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    Quote Originally Posted by basite
    No.

    No no no.

    you are finally making some sense here, albeit not completely true, you're still a bit naive, but, we're getting somewhere.

    now, on your future "upgrading plans"...
    Enhance your calm John Spartan...baby steps, my friend, baby steps...
    So, I broke into the palace
    With a sponge and a rusty spanner
    She said : "Eh, I know you, and you cannot sing"
    I said : "That's nothing - you should hear me play piano"

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobsticks
    Enhance your calm John Spartan...baby steps, my friend, baby steps...
    We been doing those baby steps for last 4 years with Spanky

    I think the main rrason he keep going back and forth with his system is that he never take care of fundementals. And the fundementals he keep ignoring is having adequet power, and having a base module.

    Buying a receiver will take care of power part, and adding a sub will take care of bass shorcomings. He try to shortcut those shorcomings and as usual, end up on a marry-go-round.

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    Btw what are those green dots by the amount you post? Is that to tell how good you are connected to this forums like a ping? If so how do I get more of those dots since most you guys have like 4 or more. I just want to look like everyone elses screen name meaning having those dots too.

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    Well I think this biggest problem is I' am always in a limited budget and getting $35 a week from helping around the house isn't enough to really get someone new. I do try to save but some goes to the gas and other things. Also I' am trying to upgrade my desktop PC as well. If as I said before I had money I would get the JBL Studio L Series L890 floorstanding speakers with a nice stereo receiver. But NO way I can afford those so that's why I try my best with my budget and get something I will be happy with like my current Philips speakers. Of cource I would be super happy if I had those high end JBL speakers. I think though the best JBL I had was the JBL S38 I got used many years agao but I sold them and got a pair of Alesis Point Seven studio monitors and yes I sold those already also. But I should of kept the JBL S38. Or even at least kept the JBL S26 since those were great sounding speaker to me. Then by now I might of gotten a better receiver to power the speakers.


    Oh well it's too late now.

    But at least I had a chance to listen to allkinds of speaker from low end ones to higher end ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustin_Broke
    Oh well it's too late now.

    But at least I had a chance to listen to allkinds of speaker from low end ones to higher end ones.

    It's never too late, just try saving money, as I said, there are lots of nice 2nd hand deals out there, 50 or 100 could buy you a nice vintage marantz receiver from the 22xx series, and then you could start saving for speakers too, while in the meanwhile, you could power the philips speakers with your receiver...

    I saved up a long time, and I eventually bought a Mcintosh amplifier, and Thiel speakers, costing much much much more than I originally thought I could save up, but I got there, just be patient.

    and the green dots are not ping numbers, they are somekind of "respect-o-meter", if you make a post that is actually helpful in a thread, or where your opinion is truly appreciated by others, members here can give you a positive rep point, adding to your rep score. Like this, you build up the green dots...

    you can check your score on your user control panel.

    Keep them spinning,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustin_Broke
    Well I think this biggest problem is I' am always in a limited budget and getting $35 a week from helping around the house isn't enough to really get someone new. I do try to save but some goes to the gas and other things. Also I' am trying to upgrade my desktop PC as well. If as I said before I had money I would get the JBL Studio L Series L890 floorstanding speakers with a nice stereo receiver. But NO way I can afford those so that's why I try my best with my budget and get something I will be happy with like my current Philips speakers. Of cource I would be super happy if I had those high end JBL speakers. I think though the best JBL I had was the JBL S38 I got used many years agao but I sold them and got a pair of Alesis Point Seven studio monitors and yes I sold those already also. But I should of kept the JBL S38. Or even at least kept the JBL S26 since those were great sounding speaker to me. Then by now I might of gotten a better receiver to power the speakers.


    Oh well it's too late now.

    But at least I had a chance to listen to allkinds of speaker from low end ones to higher end ones.
    The next time you feel that you have saved enough for an upgrade, just put that money away where you won't spend it. Wait until you are ready again, but don't buy anything. Just keep shopping and saving. Next thing you know, you'll have enough for a decent receiver. Then start saving again. After awhile, you'll have enough saved up to own a nice receiver, decent bookshelf speakers and a small sub. It may not be the monster system that you've dreamed of, but it will be a whole lot better than what you have been using. I guarantee you you that you will end up happier in the long run.

    Oh, and keep coming here. Read other threads from people talking about their systems. Keep asking questions. Read ALL the replies. Even the ones that seem rude often have information that can help you down the road. Remember. Life is not a sprint. It's a marathon. Don't be in a rush to throw your money away on something that isn't really any better than what you already have.

    Maybe just one thing to look forward to. http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/B1031A.aspx
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    I'm throwing down the gauntlet!

    At $35.00 a week (minus gas and other expenses) I sincerely doubt that Spanky will ever come close to being able to purchase even a decent sounding system. And if he did have the funds, he would not have a clue what to look for. So, given that he has provided us with so much entertainment over the years, I propose the following: Lets hook him up!

    I have 2 sets of speakers languishing in my garage: a pair of Polk Audio bookshelf speakers and a pair of vintage RSL VA-6A's. Both would be substantially better than what he's used to. If I can persuade another philanthropic member to part with an unwanted, but respectable power source, I will ship whichever speakers mate best with the amplification in question directly to SVI, on my dime. I would expect that the generous owner of the amp would do the same.

    I believe that this would have the effect of giving SVI a point of reference that would be immeasurable help in his ongoing quest for musical education. At the very least, we would no longer have to listen to his perpetual dissection of $20.00 computer speakers.

    The challenge has been issued. Who among you is man (or woman) enough to step forward?

    Roy

    P.S. Don't tell the guys at my gun club about this.
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    "and nothing but the sound of crickets disturbed the night air..."

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    I would, lots of spare stuff here, but try shipping a 20 pound amp to another part of the world...

    if it'd make it out undamaged, it still wouldn't work because of voltage differences...
    Life is music!

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    Basite:

    I understand that the complexities of sending electronic equipment overseas can be a deal-breaker...but I have faith that some of our home-grown enthusiasts will step up to the plate for this worthy (or, at least interesting) cause.

    Then again, I believe that our President has our best interests at heart.

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    Charity: 1 Love for one's fellowmen. 2 Kindness in judging others. 3 The giving of aid to the poor and suffering. 4 Public aid for the poor. 5 Any institution or fund for aiding the needy.

    I guess we fail on all counts, hey guys?

    Maybe if one of us who doesn't have a mental disorder is in trouble, we can help him.

    After all, we're good people...right?

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    If you sent him a nice set of speakers and I sent a cd player and another member sent a power source they would be pawned. He would become fascinated by the specs on cheap computer speakers and it would all be over. By the way he was up to 4 screen names. Not sure what he is up to these days. He can still post as SVI.
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    Roy, you have caught my interest. I am shipping a substantial package to Adam, and after that I could help out. I would consider sending my Marantz SR-640. Ugly but sounds great @ 60 wpc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMichael
    If you sent him a nice set of speakers and I sent a cd player and another member sent a power source they would be pawned.
    Oh. I see.

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    I'm just wondering if "Spanky" has ever heard of what's known as a job?
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    I'm sure that "Spanky" has heard of a "job". He would probably love to have one. Unfortunately, his mental makeup probably precludes him from qualifying for one. If you think his posts on this forum are meandering, can you imagine him at a job interview (so, tell me Mr. Spanky...do you have any hobbies?).

    We all have to play the cards we're dealt. I'm sure that "Spanky" is doing the best he can with what he has to work with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyY51
    We all have to play the cards we're dealt. I'm sure that "Spanky" is doing the best he can with what he has to work with.


    I am sure he has challenges but then on the other hand he creates his own site. Then he has the ability to set up a multiple number of screen names. Why does he need 4 screen names? I have tried to support him and refuse calls to ban him as a troll. When PS posted a picture of two hot dogs in one of his threads to offend SVI I responded to PS. I PM'ed him as SVI to ask which of the four screen names he wanted to be and I still have not received a response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMichael
    .. I PM'ed him as SVI to ask which of the four screen names he wanted to be and I still have not received a response.
    Give it some time. While picking up a perscription at Walgrens I noticed there was a sale on latex gloves...
    So, I broke into the palace
    With a sponge and a rusty spanner
    She said : "Eh, I know you, and you cannot sing"
    I said : "That's nothing - you should hear me play piano"

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobsticks
    Give it some time. While picking up a perscription at Walgrens I noticed there was a sale on latex gloves...



    For long term storage he might want to try Zip Loc freezer bags. Thaw, warm to 98.6 and enjoy.
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