Since I live in Canada I want to take advantage of the better deals often found from Canadian speaker makers. I was walking by a Paradigm retailer and popped in and saw several Paradigm Subs...none were over $900.00 Cdn and I believe it was the 2200. Whatever it was was tuly enormous and put simply incredible depth. I heard the $1999.00 Velodyne which was very tiny and not a lot of loudness there whatsover.

The Rava SE is interesting because my room is smaller. This is primarily for music(and really 100% for music though would be nice to be able to do a competant job on movies too) and I know Richard Greene has already given me some excellent advice on the Rava...but I figure this is the Paradigm love board and frankly, it's a lot easier to go with one of these big ass subs. I'm looking for a sub to creat a total full range experience - my standmounts are solid to ~40hz.

Bass traps I can get a hold of and an spl - I'd prefer not buying the Behringer feedback destroyer because I have no more inputs on my amp.

Perfect integration with my standmounts is required and the sub should hit below 20hz wih ease.

Paradigm subs I have always been impressed by since the mearly to mid 90s because they seem to be cheaper and offer a lot of welly - but I confess I usually have only heard them within a home theatr set-up and not music.

Anyone know if you can get them in cherry wood or are they just black? No big deal but it would be nice.