The article I posted was not referring to Bose because Bose isn't acknowledged by anyone as an audiophile maker. And Bose doesn't do DBTs to cull what people like nor do they publish white papers involving "claimed "DBT"s and also uses an Anechoic chamber. Harman International which makes Revel, JBL and others do make those claims. And that is very likely the company they were referring to - Unless someone knows of another obvious American speaker maker that does all three of those things.

I never said anything about training for commercials - show me where I said that - stop lying.

Harman trains their listeners to listen for aspects of sound they tell the listener is best. They don't hide the fact which is a plus but then it's also not letting people decide for themselves either.

I say again because the "thick" don't get it - I don't care what people like or enjoy. I don't write thousand word essays as to why Bose makes a bad sounding product.

This is an audiophile board - people are looking to buy audiophile products - Bose isn't one of them.

As illustrated here - From a guy who owns the product.

"Unlike other speaker manufacturers, Bose refuses to publish any frequency response charts or distortion data on their products (and for a good reason). Thus a few independent audiophiles, industry professionals, and newsgroups have taken it upon themselves to benchmark the much debated Acoustimass system. Here is a pretty credible one sourced from the August 1999 issue of Sound and Vision magazine...

SATELLITES BASS MODULE
Frequency Response 280 Hz to 13.3k Hz at �10.5 dB 46Hz to 202Hz at �2.3 dB
Sensitivity (SPL at 1 meter)* 85.1 dB N/A
Impedance (minimum/nominal) 5.3/8 ohms N/A
Bass Limits (-3/-6 dB) 280/220 Hz 46/40 Hz

* measured with 2.8 volts of pink-noise input

To reiterate the above, the Acoustimass's bass module responds to 46 Hz to 202 Hz at �2.3 dB, while the satellites respond to 280 Hz to 13.3 KHz at �10.5 dB. This is, by the way, the only speaker that I have ever seen tested with a �10.5 db allowance.

Still, this leaves a frequency gap between the satellites and bass module of about 80 Hz! That is 80 hertz of sound that is completely erased within the system's internal crossovers! I wonder how Bose figured out which 80 hertz matters least in the audible spectrum? I will say though that this gap accounts for a huge loss in midrange sound, which is responsible for the majority contralto, baritone, and tenor vocals in music, and many sound effects in home theater. And let us not forget that the Acoustimass system also ignores audible signal from 20Hz to 45Hz on the low end (deep bass), and 13KHz to 20KHz on the high end (high treble). Do the math folks, this Bose system only produces 13,176 of the 19,980 Hertz in the audible sound spectrum. That's roughly 66% of the actual recording being played back to you! Is this the kind of performance you'd expect from a $1300 product?

Not only will you missing out on a considerable amount of sound with Bose, but the fact that the subwoofer has to respond to frequencies as high as 280 Hz means that there will be extreme amounts of localized midbass in the Bass Module. A well-mated subwoofer should never have to produce any frequencies above 80 Hz and ideally should be crossed over around 60-70 Hz. The purpose of a subwoofer is to produce non-directional low frequency effects. So essentially when you're watching movies with a Bose system, you will hear the gunshots and explosions coming from the subwoofer in the corner of the room, and NOT from the sound imaged television screen. In music, you will hear the singer's voice come from the subwoofer next to the CD rack in the corner of the room, and not the converging point of the two main speakers. This is known as extremely poor 'sound imaging'. For you current Bose owners, try unplugging all your cubed satellite speakers and play a DVD on your Acoustimass system. I used the DVD 'X-Men' for my review. You will be able to follow the entire movie off of dialogue picked up by your Bose Bass Module alone.

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Like I said - there are reasons to buy this but audiophiles do not - audiophiles who have heard this tend to draw the same conclusions - it's atrocious sound for way too much money.