HSU versus SVS

[Geoffcin]

I liked my old VTF-2. When I moved up in room sized I upgraded to a Paradigm PW-2200, which was a bit better, but in hindsight, probably not worth the extra money I paid.

For $700, look no further -
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=300-762
This is a fabulous subwoofer for the money, exceptionally well designed. You'll need to assemble it (20 minutes, very easy).

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This one is $700.

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=300-764

Probably give my velo's a run for their money eh?

[Canadia507]

See my edit in my last post regarding velodyne, it was done a little out of synch with the rest of the thread

[Worf101]

I'm a HSU Head. I've used both the VTF-2 and VTF-3 for years now and I've put some in other folks systems as well. The VTF-2 is small, versatile, loud as s**t and won't break your back or bank.

You could do much worse.

Da Worfster

[kexodusc]

This one is $700.

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=300-764

Probably give my velo's a run for their money eh?

I assumed our good friend was from Canada, and accounted for currency conversion...
But yeah, the 15" is the way to go if you can spring it...

[kexodusc]

I don't know about the Velodyne's, I haven't done a head to head. But I for a sealed 15" option, the Titanics numbers are impressive.

The Titanics are quite versatile. They're not the last word in sound quality, or high output and extension though, more like a good blend of both. There are cheaper woofers that sound better but won't play as loud (you'll have to live with 110 dB, oh the horror), or more expensive ones that can do both better.

Daytons new Reference line and the Adire Tumults are quite popular...Advances in subwoofer over the past few years are as great as anything in the audio industry, including digital processing. A few years back, $700 USD wouldn't get you a half decent 12" ported sub. Now companies have figured out how to give you more for less (I think mass production has benefited the industry in this case). Competition is good!

[Geoffcin]

I assumed our good friend was from Canada, and accounted for currency conversion...
But yeah, the 15" is the way to go if you can spring it...

I forgot you guys are using monopoly money!

[Canadia507]

Decisions, decisions...

Thanks for all the advice, it seems like the VTF-2 and the Titan are the top contenders. Now its time to see if I can't arrange any test listens.

And for the record, I only pay in gold doubloons. Spanish, circa 1566. Anything else would just be uncivilized.

[kexodusc]

I forgot you guys are using monopoly money!

I only wish that were true...when I took my job here, the $Cdn was trading around $0.70 USD. It's climed 20% to around $0.85 or $0.86, and forecasters suspect it'll approach par in the next year or two (oil and energy prices mainly, but Canada's a few years ahead on debt managment and productivity gains)

That sucks for me, I elected to be paid in USD for my first year. My bonus this year is still going to be paid in USD. At the time most economists predicted a fall back down to the $.65 range. That was basically a 20% pay cut for me because the greenback sucked.

Doh!

[GMichael]

I only wish that were true...when I took my job here, the $Cdn was trading around $0.70 USD. It's climed 20% to around $0.85 or $0.86, and forecasters suspect it'll approach par in the next year or two (oil and energy prices mainly, but Canada's a few years ahead on debt managment and productivity gains)

That sucks for me, I elected to be paid in USD for my first year. My bonus this year is still going to be paid in USD. At the time most economists predicted a fall back down to the $.65 range. That was basically a 20% pay cut for me because the greenback sucked.

Doh!

You do know that, if you had chosen to be paid in $Cdn, it would have gone the other way? You'd still have gotten that 20% cut.

Murphy's rules, rule everywhere.

The odds of a dropped piece of toast landing jelly side down are directly proportional to the cost of your carpet.

[shokhead]

I had a 1K Klipsch sub that was pretty darn good and sold it to a co-worker that says it just blows him away. My under $600 SVS 20-39 KILLS it all around and up side down. SVS and HSU are good subs for the money. Dont think you can find as good of deals in any b&m store. Many a person has bought either to much of a SVS sub or too many of them by mistake.

[kexodusc]

You do know that, if you had chosen to be paid in $Cdn, it would have gone the other way? You'd still have gotten that 20% cut.

Murphy's rules, rule everywhere.

The odds of a dropped piece of toast landing jelly side down are directly proportional to the cost of your carpet.

Hmmm, there must be a way to use derivatives to financially hedge myself against Murphy's law...

I've since switched to CDN dollars....makes more sense....my bills are all in $Cdn now anyway. Painful lesson though. Canada's different from the USA...they're by a far a net exporter, so there's advantages to the lower dollar. Who'd a thunk it?

Oh well.

[GMichael]

Hmmm, there must be a way to use derivatives to financially hedge myself against Murphy's law....

Don't forget to carry the cow's tail...

I've since switched to CDN dollars....makes more sense....my bills are all in $Cdn now anyway. Painful lesson though. Canada's different from the USA...they're by a far a net exporter, so there's advantages to the lower dollar. Who'd a thunk it?

Oh well.

More colorfull at least.
Hmmmmm... does this mean that it's time for it to swing the other way?

[Geoffcin]

I only wish that were true...when I took my job here, the $Cdn was trading around $0.70 USD. It's climed 20% to around $0.85 or $0.86, and forecasters suspect it'll approach par in the next year or two (oil and energy prices mainly, but Canada's a few years ahead on debt managment and productivity gains)

That sucks for me, I elected to be paid in USD for my first year. My bonus this year is still going to be paid in USD. At the time most economists predicted a fall back down to the $.65 range. That was basically a 20% pay cut for me because the greenback sucked.

Doh!

Yes, I miss the days of a strong dollar too. The American people have lost a lot of buying power these last 4 years.

[kexodusc]

The good thing about a low US dollar is it encourages domestic manufacturing and purchasing. Sucks for those of who love European speakers though.

[Geoffcin]

I've got a couple of components here that are British made. I think the DarTZeel amps are traded on the commodities market too.....