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    All those look to be a bit to much :-( remember i need a receiver also..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whatever6750
    All those look to be a bit to much :-( remember i need a receiver also..
    Oh, so 500 for speakers and receiver?!?
    Lots of music but not enough time for it all

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    unfortunantly yeah.

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    Ouch! I recommend you save more money. And i mean that with all respect and honesty, buying something like a All in One box for 500 will not satisfy you in the long run.

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    Lots of music but not enough time for it all

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    Ahh well i might just get something for now and save the rest and get something after xmas as i should have plenty then.

    I do need something for now thow. I was at hhgregg and seen some sony 5.1 set for like 150 or so that sounded imo vary good for beeing sony and that cheap. Or maybe i could get a good receiver now and then just some cheaper speakers till i have the money for good ones.

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    In that case i would check this one out

    http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Onkyo...oductDetail.do
    Lots of music but not enough time for it all

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    Yeah i was lookin at those. I can get that set HT-S780 referb for like 390 shipped.

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    Well Onkyo builds nice solid products and the receiver is good and you can buy different speakers too later, so i would go for the 390$ deal
    Lots of music but not enough time for it all

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    Only thing with that is its kinda a wast of 200 bux to just get new speakers in 2 months.

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    You want to invest 500 into a HT system only to get new speakers around christmas. Lame idea, considering when x-mas rolls around you'll have 500 bucks extra which can buy a healthy sub. You'll be a lot happier with 500 more dollars than a mediocre ht set-up.

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    I think you're being a tad bit unfocused with your goals and budget. You need to lay out a full map as to what you're aiming for. If you want the loud Cerwin Vega sound, then save up for Cerwin Vega speakers. Their E-series is one of the last remnants of the vintage "west coast" speaker sound which featured the loud bassy sound with blazing highs. But, even those speakers will be a bit out of your price range.

    First thing to prioritize is whether or not you plan to eventually go multichannel. If you do, then that eliminates your options with two-channel amps and receivers.

    Next thing is whether you plan to eventually match your speakers in a multichannel configuration with an entry level 5.1/6.1/7.1 receiver. If so, then forget about planar speakers because they need a lot more amplification than entry level receivers can provide, and their strengths are more with acoustic music than with amplified instruments.

    If you decide that you want to stick with two-channel, then you can split your budget 50/50 and go with a Cambridge Audio 340A receiver, and put the remainder into speakers. Well regarded bookshelf speakers like the Paradigm Titan or the Klipsch SB-1 will give you a good amount of punch and musicality for around $250 a pair. They won't rock the foundations for parties, but they will give you good listening enjoyment.

    If you want floorstanding "party" speakers that won't be too offensive for normal listening, then your $500 budget won't cover the cost of the speakers alone. Plenty of cheap speakers can go loud and belt out the notes, but they won't be particularly accurate.

    If you want to go multichannel, then your considerations are more complicated. You will need to not only decide on which speakers to go with, but also whether the ancillary center and surround speakers match sufficiently. And you will need to decide if you want a receiver with preouts so that you can eventually add an outboard amplifier (those models generally start around $400).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woochifer
    I think you're being a tad bit unfocused with your goals and budget. You need to lay out a full map as to what you're aiming for. If you want the loud Cerwin Vega sound, then save up for Cerwin Vega speakers. Their E-series is one of the last remnants of the vintage "west coast" speaker sound which featured the loud bassy sound with blazing highs. But, even those speakers will be a bit out of your price range.

    First thing to prioritize is whether or not you plan to eventually go multichannel. If you do, then that eliminates your options with two-channel amps and receivers.

    Next thing is whether you plan to eventually match your speakers in a multichannel configuration with an entry level 5.1/6.1/7.1 receiver. If so, then forget about planar speakers because they need a lot more amplification than entry level receivers can provide, and their strengths are more with acoustic music than with amplified instruments.

    If you decide that you want to stick with two-channel, then you can split your budget 50/50 and go with a Cambridge Audio 340A receiver, and put the remainder into speakers. Well regarded bookshelf speakers like the Paradigm Titan or the Klipsch SB-1 will give you a good amount of punch and musicality for around $250 a pair. They won't rock the foundations for parties, but they will give you good listening enjoyment.

    If you want floorstanding "party" speakers that won't be too offensive for normal listening, then your $500 budget won't cover the cost of the speakers alone. Plenty of cheap speakers can go loud and belt out the notes, but they won't be particularly accurate.

    If you want to go multichannel, then your considerations are more complicated. You will need to not only decide on which speakers to go with, but also whether the ancillary center and surround speakers match sufficiently. And you will need to decide if you want a receiver with preouts so that you can eventually add an outboard amplifier (those models generally start around $400).

    I dont plan on going mutichanel just 2.1 or whatever. possobly a sub also idk. The room thease will be in is a high trafic pritty open room so i dont think rilly accrate stuff would be to practical. I dont know how well good accrate speakers would do in this kinda area.. Im just thinking becuse of how the room is i wouldent get the full affect of good accrate speakers. And what ever i get needs to be able to fill the whole room farly well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woochifer

    And you will need to decide if you want a receiver with preouts so that you can eventually add an outboard amplifier (those models generally start around $400).
    Hey, the Pioneer VSX-815/915 have preouts for all channels, for about $250 (even less if you shop around).

    As for the speakers, for now, I would recommend just going on Ebay or a pawn shop and finding a big old-fashioned set of floor standers. I know today's speakers are more refined, but there's nothing like a big ole 15' woofer for pure unadulterated fun.

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    Stupid question.. What a preout esxactly?

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    An output (RCA jack) that sends the signal from the receiver to an outboard amplifier. So if you decide later on you need more power, you can add amps and keep the receiver for processing and switching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caniac
    An output (RCA jack) that sends the signal from the receiver to an outboard amplifier. So if you decide later on you need more power, you can add amps and keep the receiver for processing and switching.
    Like whats used for powerd subs?

    Any one here ever used/listen to MTX AAL212's?

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    Onkyo TX-SR602B For 199 5 bux shipping.. Should i get it?

    Thay go for more than that on ebay!

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    Oh ya and its new not referb, And has warrenty :-)
    Last edited by Whatever6750; 11-01-2005 at 12:21 PM.

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    Like whats used for powerd subs?
    Yes.

    Any one here ever used/listen to MTX AAL212's?
    No.

    Should i get it?
    Maybe.
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    Yes, No, Maybe so

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    hmm, I think for $500 you can do much better than Onkyo if you shop used; here are a set of Stereophile recommended floorstanders from Athena - can probably be had for $350 shipped.

    http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls....oni&1135734652

    As for an amplifier, here's a remote controlled integrated from Harman Kardon (I used to own one), powerful, great soundstage, clarity, dynamics (better than any reciever I've heard)

    http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls....ran&1135454586

    There are other amps in the $200 range, but stay away from receivers if you want to realize the potential of speakers like these - and forget about watts per channal and all the nonsense claims receivers make - get a good integrated amplifier - you will quickly forget recievers.
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    I cant find any other info on those Athena AS F2.1's Just 2.2's 1.2's and stuff no 2.1s...

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    I may be able to get some MTX AAL212's for 300 shipped. Think it would be a good deal/Should i get them? Cant rilly find much on them.

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    This is the older modle http://www.audioreview.com/cat/speak...1_1594crx.aspx

    Looks like ppl like them, Also looks like what im looking for.

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