Full Review of the new B&W 800D

[theaudiohobby]

Sigh.....yet more irrelevance Sigh...and that from someone who said a few posts ago

Are you under some delusion that I believe AN is perfect or the best?

even your Olsen link is off-topic, LOL , do you understand the meaning of context at all?

I do not care who Olsen is referring to nor in any of his innuendo, it is irrelevant to this sub thread, read some excerpts from some of your original posts

we shall see - diamond sounds gimmicky to me - kevlar was IMO. ?

and

-- I have yet to hear a speaker using kevlar I would want to own everyday. The link from that expert you always posted read it over -- he'll tell you all about Kevlar. ?

and now

...and as I have said many many times -- and should have said it earlier -- who the hell cares what these people think -- unless you agree with them...

and even

Guess he'd hate your amplifier and mine and the Naim you rave about so why quote people who don't hear it like you? Sure he doesn't like much.

Get a grip, you brought Lynn Olsen into the equation , call me when you have finished concocting and twisting .

[topspeed]

Peter, thanks for the link.


Too bad this has digressed into one of the lamest arguments I've ever encountered on AR...and there have been some doosies!

To those of you that believe diamond tweeters are a gimmick, I think the engineers at Avalon, Marten Designs, Kharma, and B&W will politely disagree. But then again, you know far more than these guys so by all means continue to trash away.

To those of you that believe kevlar is a gimmick, I think the recording engineers at Skywalker sound, Abbey Road, and a host of others will politely disagree. But then again, you know far more than these guys so by all means continue to trash away.

Why does B&W charge as much as they do? Because they can. This is Business 101. Over the years, they have built up name equity, much like Mercedes Benz. However, are you going to b!tch at MB for selling $70,000 cars that aren't nearly as good from a quality stand point as a Toyota at 1/5 the cost? Of course not, because both are aspirational brands and that brings with it a whole different set of expectations. This is why B&W sports one of the highest resale retention rates of any speaker. You don't like them? So what. Other people do. Get over it and stop trying to push your opinion on others.

[Florian]

I apologize for my post, they were uncalled for. I am just stressed and ticked off at life, if i offended someone i am sorry.

-Flo

[topspeed]

We're the fanboys?

This from the self proclaimed Lord Magnepan.

No bias there, eh

[RGA]

Topspeed. Remember though that just because a company says it's better does not make it so...the word diamond has a connotation that comes with it and IF B&W is more about marketing than sound then it may very well be another gimmick and not an improvement. Abbey road is using loudspeakers from B&W that have no kevlar drivers. Skywalker Sound just released the new Star Wars DVD set which has been roundly hailed as a sonic disaster.

[Woochifer]

Topspeed. Remember though that just because a company says it's better does not make it so...the word diamond has a connotation that comes with it and IF B&W is more about marketing than sound then it may very well be another gimmick and not an improvement. Abbey road is using loudspeakers from B&W that have no kevlar drivers. Skywalker Sound just released the new Star Wars DVD set which has been roundly hailed as a sonic disaster.

Sonic disaster? No, the complaints that have been lodged at the Star Wars set have centered on the flipping of the music in the surround channels. That was a mistake by the recording engineer (easy enough to do when compiling everything digitally with Pro Tools), and nothing to do with the types of monitors used in the control room. Otherwise, the sonics on the Star Wars DVDs have been universally praised, particularly the remixes on Empire and Jedi. Plenty of other movies have been mixed at Skywalker Sound (which is frequently regarded as one of the most advanced mixing facilities in the world), and they sound just fine.

[topspeed]

Remember though that just because a company says it's better does not make it so.

True enough. I might also suggest that just because Peter Q says it's better does not make it so as well.

I'll let my own ears be the judge, thanks.

Amazing what happens when people get so wedded to their proclamations that they can no longer fathom that their world view isn't universally shared.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Woochifer]

We're the fanboys?

This from the self proclaimed Lord Magnepan.

No bias there, eh

topspeed -

Yer makin' WAY too much sense here, what's gotten into you?

This has been an amusing thread given that it started innocently enough when Peter Duminy simply posted a review of the 800D, and every other fanboy response has come from people who have not even heard the speaker in question. Just a lot of baseless presumption and self-righteous soapbox fodder. Amazing what happens when people get so wedded to their proclamations that they can no longer fathom that their world view isn't universally shared.

[Florian]

I apologize for my post, they were uncalled for. I am just stressed and ticked off at life, if i offended someone i am sorry.

-Flo

[Florian]

I apologize for my post, they were uncalled for. I am just stressed and ticked off at life, if i offended someone i am sorry.

-Flo