Quote Originally Posted by RGA
PatD do you have a picture of both the 57 and the 63? I want to make sure which one Commercial Electronics actually auditioned for me (they said 63) -- because it looked like the one you provided in the picture. They were running Bryston and a second hand Arcam CD player 8SE or 9.

Things were fine with the violin disc but when I put on Tina Turner -- things collapsed. And it is a well recorded disc - Simply the best greatest hits and foreign affairs. I always double check through a number of other discs and got the same displeasing results.

They didn't have proper drum weight which made them sound more like small monitors which also don't typically possess proper drum kit power. I get a surface presentation and I know where the drum is but there's no 3d physicallity of the instrument or sense that is "there". That was my problem with the Magenpan 1.6 as well. The lilt you speak of in the Quad in the upper midrange I actually noticed more being a problem in the 1.6 which is also why the dealer told me that this is a speaker they prefer selecting the music that is played through them so they can hide the weaknesses. They were correct in that when I put my own music on it drove a few people to leave due to be edgy. Still I figure one can work with the 1.6 and it still has a wow factor in holographics.

I understand that people stack them to get more bass so perhaps you just need two sets for it to work.
Aww RGA, just click on the first picture on the left on the link I gave you to Gary Jacobson's site. It's a picture showing both of them. The bigger black one on the right is the ESL-63.