Bose or Bosssse

[Garrardman]

Lord M,

Calm down there - the big grinning smiley face at the end of my post signifies a JOKE.

I have heard Magneplanars on many occasions and agree they have some superb aspects to their sound. However, it's quite easy to get a large soundstage (the grand piano you mentioned earlier) when the speakers you have are twice the size of the piano in question, less easy when the speakers are a sensible size.

Funnily enough, the ones i've heard recently that do it best were made by those well known purveyors of trash - Bang & Olufsen, cost £10000 and have been hailed as "reinventing the loudspeaker" by magazines that specialise in the sort of stuff that the poor impecunious loudspeaker designer like me has no chance of affording.
Still, i'm sure you know best when you say that thay are rubbish - obviously knowledge comes with money and i never realised this.

I'll make you a deal - you chill out a bit and i won't direct any more jokes towards you, as they are clearly wasted.

Adam.

[Lord_Magnepan]

Well i would have understood it if it would be a little more obvious. I am very calm actually, as i have wasted my time in other hifi forums already. I have listend to B&O BOSE, Avalon B&W Dynaudio etc.. before and cant find anything about them. My orchestra is a lot bigger than my Maggie and your B&O (the one you heard) for sure

Besides if it is reviews your looking at, than the MG 20.1 3.6 20R is regarded as the best loudspeaker in the world Period.

But to each there own.

Sorry i acted to harshly, i just get pissed very fast when some n00bies who never even heard a planar talks trash and priases some marketing company.

[PAT.P]

Well i would have understood it if it would be a little more obvious. I am very calm actually, as i have wasted my time in other hifi forums already. I have listend to B&O BOSE, Avalon B&W Dynaudio etc.. before and cant find anything about them. My orchestra is a lot bigger than my Maggie and your B&O (the one you heard) for sure

Besides if it is reviews your looking at, than the MG 20.1 3.6 20R is regarded as the best loudspeaker in the world Period.

But to each there own.

Sorry i acted to harshly, i just get pissed very fast when some n00bies who never even heard a planar talks trash and priases some marketing company.

BOSE SPEAKER ARE OVERRATED AND SO ARE MANY MORE! I HAVE ENERGY /AXIOM /DAHLQUIST /PARADIGM / BRAUN / ECT .ECT ! YOU AUDITION A FEW AND BUY WHAT YOUR EARS CAN TOLARATE! CANT ALL HAVE SAME TASTE ! ****IF WE DEED THIS SITE WOULD' NT EXIST**** PAT.P

[E-Stat]

Besides if it is reviews your looking at, than the MG 20.1 3.6 20R is regarded as the best loudspeaker in the world Period.

Well, they certainly are excellent but let's not go overboard. Don't get me wrong - I've been a planar fan ever since hearing a pair of Tympani I-Us back in '74. Not long after I purchased a pair of MG-IIs and eventually moved to Acoustat full range electrostats.

I heard a very nicely driven pair of MG 20.1s (Burmester 001, Joule Electra Rite of Passage, Valhalla), and found them superb. There is, however, some formidable competition when one speaks of the best. In the next room of the reviewer's house where I heard the 20.1s was an even more nicely driven pair of Alon Grand Exoticas. Talk about image size - the Alons make the walls disappear.

BTW, that reviewer now uses the 20.1s in an HT setup with 3.6s in the rear. With a new Barco projector, that is probably one sweet home theater arrangement.

rw

[Lord_Magnepan]

That is definetly a very nice HT Maggies and other Planars are highly critical to the sources and the rooms. There are many that consider the 20.1 to be the best speaker period. But it all depends on personal taste, room, and budget.


Cheers

PS: But you do agree that noone can compare a Quad, Magnepan, Martin Logan or other Elektro/Magneto static speaker to products from B&O or BOSE ? Thats like comparing a Avalon Eidolon Diamond or Kharma to BOSE B&O and Sony

The "Alon Grand Exoticas" cost over 120000$ too, so the 20.1(9K) or the 3.6(6K) ist one heck of a sweet deal. Not that i would choose a box over a planar, but....

You mean these?

[E-Stat]

But you do agree that noone can compare a Quad, Magnepan, Martin Logan or other Elektro/Magneto static speaker to products from B&O or BOSE ?

Ja !

The "Alon Grand Exoticas" cost over 120000$ too, so the 20.1(9K) or the 3.6(6K) ist one heck of a sweet deal. Not that i would choose a box over a planar, but....

Actually the pricing of the 20.1s is closer to $12k US. As for the Alon's (now called Nola), they are not really boxes. Note the "grillcloth" on the sides of the main towers. Only the top and bottom sections are sealed. The middle section is open. As is their glorious sound.

You mean these?

Yep.

rw

[Lord_Magnepan]

Well not that i could afford a 120000$ speaker, but it sure interest me. I will be on holiday for the next 3 month in north carolina. How can i find out, where one can hear such a special speaker?

[E-Stat]

Well not that i could afford a 120000$ speaker, but it sure interest me. I will be on holiday for the next 3 month in north carolina. How can i find out, where one can hear such a special speaker?

Good question. I heard them in NY.

Here is a better shot illustrating their "open baffle" design:



rw