Bose or Bosssse

[J*E*Cole]

You'll have to excuse me, but I've been living on Mars for a couple of years and I forgot why we don't like Bose? I don't have any, I have Infinitys, but although it's been a few years, I seem to have liked at one time the sound of the 901's. So what's the buzz on Bose?

[This Guy]

too many reasons. Do a search for it on any audio forum including this one.

[chimera128]

hehe.. let me know if you like this one or heard of it before.. i just thought of it while sitting here at work. BOSE... Better Off Spending Elsewhere.

[J*E*Cole]

hehe.. let me know if you like this one or heard of it before.. i just thought of it while sitting here at work. BOSE... Better Off Spending Elsewhere.

No, but that's a good one. How's this? "Botched Overpriced Speaker Enclosures."

[Lensman]

You'll have to excuse me, but I've been living on Mars for a couple of years and I forgot why we don't like Bose? I don't have any, I have Infinitys, but although it's been a few years, I seem to have liked at one time the sound of the 901's. So what's the buzz on Bose?

During the time Bose developed the 901s, the company did have something of an emphasis on creating high-end audio. Though not everyone thought the results were worthwhile, Bose certainly introduced some innovative engineering concepts. In more recent years, however, Bose has worked to become a highly profitable company by combining aggressive marketing with extremely low production costs. This has paid off with sales that are said to routinely surpass that of their next three competitors combined and profits that allow them to open whole retail stores devoted exclusively to their product.

Unfortunately this has also produced some of the worst performing, and expensive audio systems around. I believe it was Sound and Vision magazine that once showed a frequency response graph of Bose's Acoustimass 15 system. Retailing for around $1,300, it was tested to produce 46 to 13.5Khz +/- 10.5 db! Even with the extreme fluctations well above the +/- 3 db most speaker manufacturers use, there was still a complete absence of any frequency between 200 and 280 hz., an important midbass region. As for the absence of high end between 13.5K and 20K, Bose spiked the volume up to excessive levels around 7K to give listeners the impression of an open, airy high end. Drivers for this system have been estimated to have a retail cost of about $50 based on purchasing equivalent replacements.

The level of quality and the selling price of such products cause most audiophiles great pain. The use unnatural leveling such as noted above, extensively accoustically modified rooms in stores, and improbable speaker placement such as you see on endcaps at places like Best Buy to mask performance deficits annoy them. When combined with what is seen as the use of high pressure sales tactics on consumers and the application of advertising muscle to reviewers to guarantee positive writeups for their products, Bose just pushes many audiophiles over the edge.

[Lord_Magnepan]

No highs no lows it must be BOSE !!

How can this put a Grand Piano in my listeing room?




Answere: It cant !!!

But this can



Now some may say that the middle pic is a lot more money that the top one. And your right but this (bottom) one ist 550$ a pair.....l



And can play music a 100 times more realistic than any BOSE out there.

[eisforelectronic]

"How can this put a Grand Piano in my listeing room? "

But they look so cute!

[Lord_Magnepan]

[Mathew J]

No highs no lows it must be BOSE !!

How can this put a Grand Piano in my listeing room?




Answere: It cant !!!

But this can



Now some may say that the middle pic is a lot more money that the top one. And your right but this (bottom) one ist 550$ a pair.....l



And can play music a 100 times more realistic than any BOSE out there.

Honestly to compare the two lower ones to the bose system is laughable....the other two are huge by comparison and personally I wouldn't want nor consider either in any room I had as they are horrible in appearance, call me a non audiophile if you like but facts are facts and personally I would hate looking at that crap every day if I had it....

Now if you want to compare like with like then that is find, personally I like the Canton movie series alot as well as the Energy speakers...but what you posted is boarderline laughable.

[Resident Loser]

...you won't need the rough-hewn granite slabs...or the two or three analog TTs on their own sorbothane, space-pod feet...or the extension on your home to house any of the other assorted "audiophile" approved whatchamacallits guaranteed to provoke "ooohs" and "ahhhs" you so crave as an elitist, golden-eared wunderkind...

All ya gotsta do is plug it in and enjoy...of course that is predicated by you liking the sound produced by Bose...if you do, tell 'em to stick it where the sun don't shine...it's your cash...

Yeah, it's expensive...somebody has to pay for the R&D, and advertising...also consider what exactly comprises value...WAF is a big part as is unobtrusiveness and ease of installation...it all costs, probably more than it should, but remember it's market driven...

Polks used to be the darling of the audio-types till Matthew "sold-out" and went mainstream with ads and all...fickle lot dem audiopiles...

And since the whole hi-fi/audio concept is illusory, if you want a grand piano in your living room, buy one and take lessons...all playback is at best an approximation, you can't fit a full symphony orchestra between two speakers and even a solo piano would require well-recorded studio masters, done with careful attention to the required cues that would fool your ears into thinking, hot d@mn, it's a pianey!

jimHJJ(...just an observation...)

[Lord_Magnepan]

To each there own.

[hifimaster]

And since the whole hi-fi/audio concept is illusory, if you want a grand piano in your living room, buy one and take lessons...all playback is at best an approximation, you can't fit a full symphony orchestra between two speakers and even a solo piano would require well-recorded studio masters, done with careful attention to the required cues that would fool your ears into thinking, hot d@mn, it's a pianey!

jimHJJ(...just an observation...)

Something gives me the impression you have never heard an actual high-end setup.

[E-Stat]

...and I forgot why we don't like Bose?

They are the Chevrolet Cavaliers of the speaker world. Decent performance good enough for the masses. Not bad, just not what creates much enthusiasm for music lovers. I had a Bose system in my last Acura and it was OK.

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