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    Quote Originally Posted by wchek
    Thanks for your comments, Bobsticks!

    I have been trying to search for a used pair of Grand Piano or Concerto but seems people hardly sell their SF

    I forgot to mention that i'm living in an apartment so i will be playing low/mid volume most of the time. If really floorstanders are needed, is MA RS8 a good choice?

    I couldn't find any reviews on Concertino vs RS8 comparison which is kinda expected because how do you compare a sedan with a 4WD? If there is any please let me know!

    Another question, regardless of the room size, which would produce better stereo music? RS8 or Concertino/VX-10 combination?
    Try Audiogon. They have a pair of Grand Pianos on there for $1850 in walnut. I think I also saw a pair of Concertos

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    Well, it's not always a matter of overall volume but what will smoothly cover the full range of frequencies. Floortanders generally make integration easier but many still use a sub with them for the last octave (i do). Some of that is going to depend on the styles and variety of music you listen to. Another factor will be your willingness to play around with placement and the crossover factor
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    With your MLs, whereabout you have the crossover set?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeruvianSkies
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    With your MLs, whereabout you have the crossover set?
    About 65k.

    $4k is a difficult figure if that is th ebudget for the entire project if only because it puts one so close to an eschelon on speakers that is a little higher than average. Meaning, once you get done purchasing 5speaks and a sub there is very little left over for proper amplification and source.

    If I had 4k and a fondness for Sonus Faber I think I would start off with the Grands and some solid two-channel amplification which could later be used off the pre-outs of a pre/pro or receiver. Just an IMO moment...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobsticks
    $4k is a difficult figure if that is th ebudget for the entire project if only because it puts one so close to an eschelon on speakers that is a little higher than average. Meaning, once you get done purchasing 5speaks and a sub there is very little left over for proper amplification and source.

    If I had 4k and a fondness for Sonus Faber I think I would start off with the Grands and some solid two-channel amplification which could later be used off the pre-outs of a pre/pro or receiver. Just an IMO moment...
    Thanks for your advise, bobsticks!

    A pair of new Grand Piano Domus is already more than $4k which leaves me no budget for other equipments. What about the Concerto? What is the difference between a 2-way and 3-way speaker?

    If the difference is only additional bass for a 3-way, maybe I can consider the Concerto since a sub can't be avoided for a 5.1system (my ultimate goal). But back to the question of bookshelf vs floorstander again (i.e. Concertino vs Concerto), the price difference is huge as both are 2-way speakers from the same series, even after included the original stand of the Concertino. Does the floorstander really worth the extra bucks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wchek
    Thanks for your advise, bobsticks!

    A pair of new Grand Piano Domus is already more than $4k which leaves me no budget for other equipments. What about the Concerto? What is the difference between a 2-way and 3-way speaker?

    If the difference is only additional bass for a 3-way, maybe I can consider the Concerto since a sub can't be avoided for a 5.1system (my ultimate goal). But back to the question of bookshelf vs floorstander again (i.e. Concertino vs Concerto), the price difference is huge as both are 2-way speakers from the same series, even after included the original stand of the Concertino. Does the floorstander really worth the extra bucks?
    Why can't a sub be avoided?
    Especially with floorstanders with decent bass.
    I have a sub with a blown plate amp, and my fronts carry the weight quite nicely
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    Why can't a sub be avoided?
    Especially with floorstanders with decent bass.
    I have a sub with a blown plate amp, and my fronts carry the weight quite nicely
    As far as i know a sub is to cater for the .1 channel in a 5.1 or 7.1 movie recording. Without a sub the .1 sound would be missing, hence an explosion would sound like water splash (i.e. no bass). Correct me if i'm wrong.

    For 2-channel music i do agree that a sub is optional for floorstanders but a must for bookshelf speakers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wchek
    As far as i know a sub is to cater for the .1 channel in a 5.1 or 7.1 movie recording. Without a sub the .1 sound would be missing, hence an explosion would sound like water splash (i.e. no bass). Correct me if i'm wrong.

    For 2-channel music i do agree that a sub is optional for floorstanders but a must for bookshelf speakers.
    Some pre/pro's such as my Anthem will allow you to route the bass from the LFE(.1) to the other speakers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wchek
    Thanks for your advise, bobsticks!

    A pair of new Grand Piano Domus is already more than $4k which leaves me no budget for other equipments. What about the Concerto? What is the difference between a 2-way and 3-way speaker?

    If the difference is only additional bass for a 3-way, maybe I can consider the Concerto since a sub can't be avoided for a 5.1system (my ultimate goal). But back to the question of bookshelf vs floorstander again (i.e. Concertino vs Concerto), the price difference is huge as both are 2-way speakers from the same series, even after included the original stand of the Concertino. Does the floorstander really worth the extra bucks?
    If it were me, I would get a great set of bookshelves and a really good subwoofer, I think with this combination you will be surprised, especially once you get the crossover to a good point, just how awesome it can be. I realized late in the game that bookshelves (in my situation at least) tend to work better for HT application, i.e. 5.1 setup, whereas floorstanders present themselves better for 2-channel needs. Maybe this is just my preference, but I am using a set of Polk Monitor 40's now for my HT room and they just blew me away with how dynamic they could be for HT use, of course I think they are a really good speaker for $300. You can do much better, especially with your budget.

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