Any opinions on Jamo Speakers?

[stereophonicfan]

Does anybody own Jamo speakers?

Happy about your purchase? Which type did you purchase? Oriel, Concert, 7-series?
Warmer sound or a colder sound? Dynamic enough?

How good are these speakers compared to other brands? How high-end are these speakers?

thanks!

[Mr Peabody]

I do not own a pair but auditioned some Jamo when I was searching for speakers. I heard the series with the concrete front baffle and looked like a bullet was poked through the mid-bass driver. These would have been real contenders for me except the store owner wouldn't let me take them home for an audition. The best amp he had to run them was a Sony ES and even with that they sounded pretty good. I liked the bookshelf at $2k best. It seemed to have punchier bass than the tower with two 6 1/2 drivers. This just may have been because the amp couldn't drive the towers sufficiently. I liked them better than the B&W. Unfortunately I didn't get to hear the Jamo to their full potential but from what I did hear I think they are the real thing. I found them to be dynamic and a pleasure to listen to. I don't like to label speakers as "warm" or otherwise, I think a speaker should be neutral and accurately reflect the characteristics of your electronics. I fell for and own Dynaudio. I will always wonder what those Jamos could have done strapped to my Krell.

[RGA]

The new Jamo's have been getting ripped to shreds for horrible sound in both What Hi Fi and the blind listening sessions at Hi fi CHoice.

The older Jamo line is here sold at a drug store called London Drugs which compared to the low end Klipsch series is pretty good because jamo avoids the sibilance in the highs. The older series isn't bad but it's kind of lackluster...always been my experience...there'snothing really egregious aboutJamo's sound but nothing that makes my toes tap either. The older line is completely outclassed by comparable B&W's, Missions, Wharfedales IMO.

Most of their speakers if not all do possess a soft dome so it's surprising that they can sound brighter than some metal tweeters...which shows there are always exceptions...Vandersteen uses metal drivers and are anything but bright so it goes both ways. Some Jamo did get 4 stars but are the expensive ones...these more budget contenders did less well.
http://www.hifichoice.co.uk/review_read.asp?ID=1956
http://www.hifichoice.co.uk/review_read.asp?ID=768
http://www.hifichoice.co.uk/review_read.asp?ID=516

SO it depends on your budget.

Jamo isn't a brand I think of when someone mentions high end speakers - but people's view of high end are different.

[stereophonicfan]

I have to agree with the fact that some Jamo-models are indeed outclassed by brands like B&W and Wharfedale's.

The point of this post was to check what the audio-community thinks of Jamo.
I find that Jamo indeed works with cheaper materials and does less R&D than lets say B&W. But they do manage to be cheaper and still provide a true hifi-experience.

I myself once had the choice between B&W 600 series and Jamo 7.7's. I chose the last one. Because the 600 series, to me personally, are ridiculous. They lauched the series with an enormous publicity to be the more affordable range of B&W. They are indeed more dynamic than most speakers but only in the high's and mid's, they completely lack bass-authority. B&W noticed this! What happened? B&W put them in a HT-configuration with bookshelfs as surroundspeakers and a big ugly subwoofer added to give the necessary bass.
I don't hate B&W, on the contrary! I love the 700 series and the nautilusseries but they simply a little to costly for my taste.
Now the Jamo 7.7's have enough bass, the high's and mid's are very dynamic aswell, thanks to fiberopticfabric-cones.

But that's just my opinion apparently?!

[manek]

Ok....now I might not own Jamo but they are not as bad as Hifichoice makes them out to be....all these reviews must be taken with a pinch of salt.....

I have heard Jamo extensively(though I dont own them). Some of their range is very very good. Yes, they do have the cheaper versions too but then again they cater to all segments of the speaker market.

Jamo E855, E870, D570, D590, D830, D870 are all very very good speakers especially the last four. They do very well in the market too. I suggest you audition any of the above and you will like them for their price point.

Jamo outclassed by Wharfedale ???? B&W I can swallow but Wharfedale ? Sorry I dont agree to that at all.....by the way the above mentioned jamo's are not bright at all.

[stereophonicfan]

I hope your referring to the post RGA placed on this thread?! I wouldn't call Jamo outclassed since I mentioned "some Jamo-speaker models are outclassed"! And indeed, Jamo tries hard to appeal to all pricecategories!

Funny thing happened! My usual dealer for audio-equipment has abandoned audio and gave the audio-part to be run by one of his partners in their firm. Prices went up immediately.
I believe you can imagine my disappoinment! I now have to pay about 10% to 15% more for the same main-speakerpair. I'm already thinking of switching dealers. (My money doesn't grow in my garden, I have to go out and earn it!!)

[absolon]

I'm no expert but I recently acquired a vintage Sony T 2000A/T-3200A amplifier combo and for the moment am using an old set of Jamo D-2 bookshelf speakers with it. I had no idea that music could sound this good. The speakers weren't much to listen to on my old unit, an ICC600 integrated amp, but are remarkable on a good, low distortion amplifier with enough power to drive them. They aren't notable for their bass which suits my listening tastes, but they have led me to understand finally what the "soundstage" people here talk about is.

[careless b]

Sterio,

I had a family member who swears in this brand. He recently upgraded them 2 years ago, not sure which model, they had a black timber finish with two 6.5 drivers (I think) and a small dome tweeter.
This was driven by an older Rotel amp, I have to admit they did a good job sounded, best way to descibe, laid back ( i suppose, you could call it warm). These speakers don't match my music taste, but, nevertheless I was impressed. P.S they did a good job of really filling up a very large garage.

Brad

[manek]

careless b,

yeah ...I know what you are syaing.....Most people just wave them off as a lifestyle product but some of their models are serious stuff like...E855, D570/590, D830, D870.

People should hear them. yes they do have a sort of laid back sound but the D870 is really a very very good speaker.

[Rewind]

Does anybody own Jamo speakers?

Happy about your purchase? Which type did you purchase? Oriel, Concert, 7-series?
Warmer sound or a colder sound? Dynamic enough?

How good are these speakers compared to other brands? How high-end are these speakers?

thanks!

My stepfather has a 15 year old system with a Phillips 900 series FA 931 amp (OK) with 6 CD, radio, cassette, LP ....... . . . a n d . . . the Jamo Concert VII.

Relevant info:
¤ Complete System Price New: 40 000 Swedish crowns = $6000
¤ 300 Watt!!!
¤ 3-way, double chamber bass reflex
¤ Combined weight per pair = 56 kg
¤ Speaker of the year 1989.
¤ Biamped for increased clarity
¤ The tweeter sounds like a hamster on fire!
¤ The middriver...guitar riffs... garglllgl...
¤ The TWO push-pull bassdriver inside the cabinet sounds like a bull caught with his balls in the electric fence!

I have spent a few months assessing what is the best speaker to date, before realizing the answer was possibly standing in the my parents living room. When I have tried the ATC and realized that they just aren't worth it and compared them to Danish age old handcraft, before China, before economic slave labour - then I will try to buy them from him. I will most likely have to wait for my inheritage and when I am old - and almost have lost hope of pairing these babies with a Bryston amp - rip the speakers off of his cold dead hands!


Oh, and they are white. And have a loudness character to them. The EQ is not flat. They otherwise sound very clean. Like listening to chlorine. But I am still going to use them in my music studio for reference. You just have to get to know the speaker. I do not believe one can get this quality ESPECIALLY today without paying serious money. The push-pull double bassreflex is awsome. Our 300 m2 house is too small for them.

[Mr Peabody]

Rewind, you might want to give a listen to a pair of Dynaudio. These Dane's may suffice until you inherit the holy grale.

[rabbit73au]

I have owned a pair of jamo concert VIIs for about 5 years now and my father has owned a pair since new, when i was buying my system i was dissapointed with all the speakers i was auditioning and i did listen to quite a few high end speakers and in my opinion didn't sound as good as the concert VIIs, so i went online and bought a pair on ebay from an overseas seller, and i would not change these speakers untill I hear something better, and one thing i have found out you have to have a good eletronics behind them if you have cheap equipment they sound crappy as they are a very neutral speaker i.e what you put in you get out

[benjybobs]

Does anybody own Jamo speakers?

Happy about your purchase? Which type did you purchase? Oriel, Concert, 7-series?
Warmer sound or a colder sound? Dynamic enough?

How good are these speakers compared to other brands? How high-end are these speakers?

thanks!

I once heard a pair of jamo's that would blow away any other speaker on the market. They were quite large and had 2 grills at top, 2 midrange, 1 horn and a 12 inch woofer, the system they were on isn't marketed but built to do the job properly. I can assure you that the quality of the speakers I heard was so good it was kinda frightning. I felt like I were actually there, I could also hear the real stereo sound in full 3d, even height to the sound.

My little tip to all that reads this is don't listen to others or those advice mags because all speaker companies are capable of making amazing systems. Quality comes from overall system balance to frequency relationship. there is a lot involved in sound, you could take any speaker and give it to a sound expert to build a system designed to match the speakers perfectly and it would sound a 1000 times better than you would ever belive. you can tune a system to match your speakers too.

Go for what you think or believe. If I had my way and the right equipment, i'd personally set up a system on a pair of jamos and show you how good they are. The way speakers sound isn't what we actually listen to, they create the waves yes, but there is more to sound than you would first think. it's not just a case of playing the sound flat. That doesnt get the best possible sound.

Many years ago I had a towerdeck systtem. not sure what it was but after adjusting the sound and getting it equal, and I spent hours of adjusting and wouldnt settle for that will do but aimed for as perfect as I could get it. I had a sound from a £200 system, that sounded like it was worth £2000. That system was intended on purpose for faithful sound reproduction and when set up, I had 3d sound from my stereophonic vinyals. The sound expressed every emotion and the difference of tones, you could hear everything, every instrument equally. the sound would pan left and right aswell as towards the listener and you could listen anywhere in the room and you would be the center of the sweet spot.

I'm gonna tell you honestly that all systems today are built for money making purposes only. Its a marketing thing, they have taken circuitry away that enables us to perceive the sound correctly, like the crosstalk problem. They just want to save on money, its a money ruling world. So make your own choice and don't listen to others.

If you heard what I have, you would understand that we can have perfect sound for our personal listening experience. If I had some equipment capable of good sound and I set it up and done a listening comparison with any system they rate, then I asked your opinion. You would clearly see the difference between a proper set up and their selling ratings are so far apart, its shocking.

Just picture a zx spectrum computer graphics vs a pc playing a game like crysis. that is the sort of difference that can be. The way the sound is presented on our current poor systems only masks the sounds and plays them at the completely wrong times in the wrong relationship in relation to other frequencys. It alrigth me saying this but you have to experience it to believe it.

So take your own personal choice guys, When trying to re-equalize the frequencys on systems sold today, it is imposible to balance because as you balance some of the frequencys it puts others out of balance. It isn't put together in a linear way.

I can promise you all that if you heard what I have, you would be gobsmacked for life. Sounded just like I was in heaven, speakers in reveiws they say has warm sound and stuff, ive heard them and they are appauling sounding in comparison.

A good sound system can sound better, more exciteing expressive sound on a lowish volume than a **** heap can at maxium volume. I hear lots of crap about listening positions and the sweet spot. With the properly way of playing back the sounds and right design, we can have the same perspective of stereo where ever we listen from, even outside of the speakrs. Just because things sound the way they appear doesnt mean they have to sound like it. Its the way they play the sound back that causes the treble to sound in front of the speakers. Everything can be made near perefct, better than my hearing and I used to have exceptional hearing. I don't know about now so much.

Make your own choices after listening, Thanks everyone who managed to get this far. Our quality of sound is taken away due to money saving. ps they had sound that good over 20 years ago. Nothing marketed is designed properly, it don't matter how good your components are if the design is wrong.

thanks

[JoeE SP9]

I once heard a pair of jamo's that would blow away any other speaker on the market. They were quite large and had 2 grills at top, 2 midrange, 1 horn and a 12 inch woofer, the system they were on isn't marketed but built to do the job properly. I can assure you that the quality of the speakers I heard was so good it was kinda frightning. I felt like I were actually there, I could also hear the real stereo sound in full 3d, even height to the sound.

My little tip to all that reads this is don't listen to others or those advice mags because all speaker companies are capable of making amazing systems. Quality comes from overall system balance to frequency relationship. there is a lot involved in sound, you could take any speaker and give it to a sound expert to build a system designed to match the speakers perfectly and it would sound a 1000 times better than you would ever belive. you can tune a system to match your speakers too.

Go for what you think or believe. If I had my way and the right equipment, i'd personally set up a system on a pair of jamos and show you how good they are. The way speakers sound isn't what we actually listen to, they create the waves yes, but there is more to sound than you would first think. it's not just a case of playing the sound flat. That doesnt get the best possible sound.

Many years ago I had a towerdeck systtem. not sure what it was but after adjusting the sound and getting it equal, and I spent hours of adjusting and wouldnt settle for that will do but aimed for as perfect as I could get it. I had a sound from a £200 system, that sounded like it was worth £2000. That system was intended on purpose for faithful sound reproduction and when set up, I had 3d sound from my stereophonic vinyals. The sound expressed every emotion and the difference of tones, you could hear everything, every instrument equally. the sound would pan left and right aswell as towards the listener and you could listen anywhere in the room and you would be the center of the sweet spot.

I'm gonna tell you honestly that all systems today are built for money making purposes only. Its a marketing thing, they have taken circuitry away that enables us to perceive the sound correctly, like the crosstalk problem. They just want to save on money, its a money ruling world. So make your own choice and don't listen to others.

If you heard what I have, you would understand that we can have perfect sound for our personal listening experience. If I had some equipment capable of good sound and I set it up and done a listening comparison with any system they rate, then I asked your opinion. You would clearly see the difference between a proper set up and their selling ratings are so far apart, its shocking.

Just picture a zx spectrum computer graphics vs a pc playing a game like crysis. that is the sort of difference that can be. The way the sound is presented on our current poor systems only masks the sounds and plays them at the completely wrong times in the wrong relationship in relation to other frequencys. It alrigth me saying this but you have to experience it to believe it.

So take your own personal choice guys, When trying to re-equalize the frequencys on systems sold today, it is imposible to balance because as you balance some of the frequencys it puts others out of balance. It isn't put together in a linear way.

I can promise you all that if you heard what I have, you would be gobsmacked for life. Sounded just like I was in heaven, speakers in reveiws they say has warm sound and stuff, ive heard them and they are appauling sounding in comparison.

A good sound system can sound better, more exciteing expressive sound on a lowish volume than a **** heap can at maxium volume. I hear lots of crap about listening positions and the sweet spot. With the properly way of playing back the sounds and right design, we can have the same perspective of stereo where ever we listen from, even outside of the speakrs. Just because things sound the way they appear doesnt mean they have to sound like it. Its the way they play the sound back that causes the treble to sound in front of the speakers. Everything can be made near perefct, better than my hearing and I used to have exceptional hearing. I don't know about now so much.

Make your own choices after listening, Thanks everyone who managed to get this far. Our quality of sound is taken away due to money saving. ps they had sound that good over 20 years ago. Nothing marketed is designed properly, it don't matter how good your components are if the design is wrong.

thanks

You write with an awful lot of (sic) authority and absolutes for a first post.

[poppachubby]

1) If you heard what I have, you would understand that we can have perfect sound for our personal listening experience.

2) I can promise you all that if you heard what I have, you would be gobsmacked for life.

...right. So just what ARE these components?! They make speakers vanish, and sweet spots out of entire rooms. I am dying to know.

While I agree with your general idea that the hi-fi industry isn't always what it's cracked up to be, you have made some tall claims without getting too specific.

I feel I have done EXACTLY what you say with my system. It's a series of synergy with a couple comprimises. The end result is much better than it should be, however, when I am listening to it, my chair does not levitate or glow a green aura.

[benjybobs]

...right. So just what ARE these components?! They make speakers vanish, and sweet spots out of entire rooms. I am dying to know.

While I agree with your general idea that the hi-fi industry isn't always what it's cracked up to be, you have made some tall claims without getting too specific.

I feel I have done EXACTLY what you say with my system. It's a series of synergy with a couple comprimises. The end result is much better than it should be, however, when I am listening to it, my chair does not levitate or glow a green aura.

This is a very complicated thing to explain my friend. Good sound reproduction requires a good overall system balance. Basically everything in the chain matters. The actual response of the speakers needs to match the amp and the cd etc, then we have room accoustics that can alter sounds. I honestly don't know how to begin explaining because its so hard, if I had a system to demonstrate and show you and let you listen I would but unfortunately I don't .

Componnet quality doesn't mean you will have good sound. You would put the best components ever in a system and the sound will not be good. Its more on the terms of what componnets are used and how they are put together as a whole. The system needs to be specifically designed so all components and everything work together as a whole.

Suposedly all frequencys from 20-20,000 hz have to be apoxiamately the same volume to get good reproduction. But in reality there is more involved.

We have a 3d world and with just 2 ears, we can determine height, width and depth of sound all around us. With a single speaker we apear to be limited to just 1 position. but you should read up on transaural sound. Its when the playback allows the sound to be heard from a different location than its actually played. Also read up on phantom imaging. Now I will say this right now. What they claim and what can be done with the right way of playback are different. Lets talk about the sweetspot

The sweetspot, lets call this a focus point, just like a camera, when things are in focus we can see it clearly. So people assume that volume is cause of this. That isn't true, I had a system where you could walk outside the 2 speakers and it still sounded like it was coming from between them. It didnt' matter where you listened from. The sound has to meet at some point. Now if I were to playback on a pair of speakers with the left/right balance put to the side, could you hear the sweetspot more to one side than the other. It apears that it does. How things quite often seem isn't allways the truth in the matter.

In orde to be able to hear this equally everywher we would need more balancing to the sound and cancelations. now with a good system, they playback the sound on the right speaker on the left and the left on the right speaker but its the way it's played back. Now instead of volume of sound think of time of sound. When they arrive at the same time or slightly different it puts the sound to one side more than the other. volume alters dispeartion position which slightly alters position. I find what i'm trying to say hard to put in words. ok I try and explain something differently.

Ok before I continue, im not going to try and explain everything but I will try and explain something that might make sense with a bit of luck.

Low hz and high hz, low we can't tell direction of sound but high is more pin point. Just picture a large circle and you try and divide it up by puting a small circle inside. it is biased. imagine that every sound is made up from different frequencys, they all have their own resonance frequency. We have high and low sounds. For example, get a large hoop and a small one, the small can only be a part of the area of the big. now imagine this as dividing up the circles and giving us a location of the sound. The high frequencies make the sound face the listner more, if they combine it can alter the waves. for different distances and directions we have a different frequency response to the ears. This does not alter the actual frequencys played only the travel frequencys. Those travel frequencys can re-create the original frequencys as an accoustical frequency. I sugest reading up on interferometry of waves. I haven't got much time and have to do other things but ill make it short.

Frequencys determine the direction of sound, volume can alter the arrival times in relation to other frequencys.

Everything in saying is , when you read up about anything, the aproach and design of the systems being used today are wrong. They claim about haas effect, crosstalk etc ruining the sound but if you think about it. Why not use them to our advantage using a different way of playback.

There are many names given to stereo, but originally stereo was binuaral. They are all almost the same. People think stereo and binaural are miles apart but the truth is there stereo reproducction is balanced out corectly so the sound interfers in crosstalk. Why try and stop the sound, why not use it as advantage in the way its playedback in the first place.

Here is a link to sound sound for you to get a simualr idea to how the system sounded, although you must listen to on headphones to be able to hear it cause your sytsem isnt' in the kind of balance and frequency relationship to make it sound right. ps the system sounded 1000 times better in direction and accuracy than headphones do, headphones are much more closed in sound where the speakesr were more open and it traveled around in 3d with much better peception. you might have heard it before but if not you might enjoy the 3d qualities.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJwUVCXH-gM

My stereo records years ago when the system was set up had 3d sound like this on 2 speakers from any listening position. It wasnt' quite perfect but the best system I heard, the speaker design compensated so it was perfect. Notice how 2 speakers can add height to the sound, its the way the frequencys arrive and in a 3d world the interference changing the frequencys and arivals within the haas effect can be used as advantage to fool our senses.

I'm explaining like this cause I'll be here for hours trying to rack my brain on how to explain how it's done, I thought i'd give you a few clues.

Stereo can sound in 3d when its played again in the correct way.

ps equalization, people say play it flat but there is more to amplification and frequency response than we all believe. With the right parts its posible to re-balance the signals and get them good enough to hear the effect but very few systems are capable and most aren't balanceable because as you get one in balance it puts the other out, it isn't done in a linear relationship and is impositble to re balance.

Just think of a camera and it being in focus, the same aplys from speakers to our ears. In order to have a sweetspot everywhere, you need to make it sound the same everywhere, its played more than once on both speakers, so left on right right on left and read up interferometry. Its like 2 becomes as 1. particulary think of the frequency difference in time. Let me say if you can make all frequencys arive as the same but on a different level then you can get a linear flow of frequencvys. I hope you can undesratnd what i'm trying to say.

If I had a capable system and tuned it and showed you, you would be so gobsmacked, Its like each frequency arrival has more than 1 job. Like its part of 2 perspetives in the 3d world. A bit like the way its played is part low and part high frequency in relation and the other perspective covers that.

picture if we made a wave then interferd with another sound which altered the wave. If we corrected it playing another wave the same and fooled us believe that we are at the center but the distance has changed. its very hard to explain using words.

The effect using a 1 way speaker that is close togher, if you go to the right of the speakers its like the width and depth goes slightly biased to the left and if you go to the left of the speakers, the sound with go to the right, its like the whole perspective is twisting but allways facing us. if you walk away from teh speakers. the hight of the sound seems to get a bit lower. if we pick up the speakers above our heads, it seems to narrow into a thin line up high.

Believe me we don't determine direction on the first wave only but how they arrive as a whole together.

With the best speakesr I heard, they gave max height width and depth and sounded the same for all direction. Illusion of frequency arrival to make the sound apear (by illusion) that its above us. so its higher than the speaker level, depends on how it was recorded but its from our minds. The perspective is perfect, you can walk away to the sides and it doesnt twist.

What I should say is people don't truely understand how we hear sound, not the truth.

I promise everyone who reads this, that its possible to have almost perfect sound. I say almost, although it sounded perfect to me. It will allways be criticised that it isn't perfect. some people talk of microscopic levels that we can't even tell difference. people claim that dvd is better than cd, in theory yes but in practical, not a chance.

I'll prove it, count to 44,100 in seconds and time how long it takes. it does that every second. its so fine the sample rate. When you listen to a hd cd player and think it sounds better, its not the rates that make the difference even though they apear to. its the way of playback. our ears can only hear 20,000 hz if they are really great in normal people. I used to be able to hear 20,000 hz but not sure about now ?. so it takes a position of a wave twice as many times as we can hear. Whatever the statistics, the truths are covered up by marketing.

Years ago, they did make a few systems that are truely capable of good reproduction that overcome the problems. but now they have removed the circuitry that solved the stereo problems to save money on costs of makeing. Its a buissness run world.

That is why they don't make what they truely can.

ps the frequencys played are the distances of the sound but we are told volume is and the truth is covered up. If you got a system like I had and hear it, its a million times better than you would believe. pin point. Its a very confusing thing when you read it but if only I had a system now to demonstrate and show you. I think your jaw would drop and you would want to listen to everything. I used to sit listening to the 3d sound for hours in amazment, it just had that sort of effect.

I one day want to have sound like I once had years ago. Money and finding something worth buying is the problem today. I heard a £20,000 system in a shop one day and it wasn't even close to how it should sound.

I promise that sound can be almost perfect with the right design, person having normal hearing permitting.

Thanks for reading, its too hard to explain but I hope you might understnad something. I tell you what get an equalizer and experiment with tuneing, listen to the pitch of the sound and try and make it sound alike, it might sound odd but move your head around your speakers, alter the volume, you might discover that with slight adjustments your find the sound is hear around the speakers at different angles or positions, but its all masked from hearing it how it should be.

I don't know why I bother telling people stuff like this but it hurts me because I once had a great system producing real stereo and now I have to put up with bull**** systems that don't even sound remotely how they should. The best system churned my stomach with excitement to the music where it was so expressive. I cannot express how poor the systems are today. people think it sounds alright but they've not heard nothing decent. Its like your playing on a zx spectrum whilst im on a pc playing crysis on high res monitor. that sort of difference in quality.

Quality is getting everything to arrive in the way it should at the right times at the right tones. Instead of getting a tone in the way your system is played, you end up getting 2 different sets of noise that doesnt corispond. Good luck if you want a system like this my friend. If I get something that works, ill let ya know which parts and how to set it so you can have sound which is shockingly amazing.

Thanks.

[TheHills44060]

I have a pair of Jamo S3's my dad gave to me around 1992-ish. Decent little speakers, in fact I have them hooked up in my sisters main stereo because they are small but sound ok with a subwoofer.

[harley .guy07]

Years ago when I worked at a better quality audio and video shop we had a chance to pick up jamo but when we auditioned several pairs of them from our vendor we just could not get interested in their sound, they didn't sound bad but they did not do anything real good either. Just kind of there. And only the best recordings would make them tolerable to me. We ran them with Yamaha receivers, Denon receivers and Adcom seperates which aren't bright is my opinion but not one of these products brought out any magic with them and I knew the brands we carried very well and knew how their sound was. I even used the monster 5800 adcom power amp on their towers and even it did not improve the dynamics of their bigger speakers it just allowed them to go a tad louder without clipping strain.

[D. Paul Navigator]

I'm always amazed when so many folks can tell you how much they don't know about the subject of the thread. I own several Jamo speakers, with my prize being the wonderful E680 floor standing speaker, which I just happen to get when dealers were trying to clear warehouses. The tweeter is the decoupled tweeter (DTT), which is completely isolated from the speaker body, and is a coated soft dome tweeter, and the smal midrange and the woofers are woven fiberglass. The detail is very good, wide sound stage, and excellent bass response. A comparable production model now is the C607, with hard center plug, multi-material (poly, fiberglass, pulp sandwich) and DTT tweeter. These retail from $400-500 each and compete with most anything else made at this price and higher. They make terrific boxes and excellent finishes (black and dark apple wood finish).

They make a higher end series C800, with the C809 being their top regular production model, and at $2000/pair quite worth the money. If you want pure audiophile, they make two R907 and R909 for $8000-14000/pair. The next time some says they make cheap speakers, understand they do try to provide affordable surround systems, but also provide everything up to and including audiophile.

[D. Paul Navigator]

Good write up (technical stuff causes me head aches), but the idea of perfect speakers or set up seems not to be part of the surround sound genre. Otherwise why would so many people buy the tiny little satellite speakers, but good write up anyway.

[benjybobs]

Good write up (technical stuff causes me head aches), but the idea of perfect speakers or set up seems not to be part of the surround sound genre. Otherwise why would so many people buy the tiny little satellite speakers, but good write up anyway.

Can I just point out that all sound is surround, Stereo is 3d sound be it cannot be heard because of the timings and interference, this is why adjustments need to be made to get it arriving equally in a perspective that audiable to us humans.

Singleway speakers can provide 3d sound and come away from the speaker but the sound is limited to it's soundstage (I mean it doesnt really go around the listen so well. 3 way speakers if set up corectly can provide a better soundstage which can actually increase the viewing area. So it can have more hight, width and depth.

With the speakres I heard its fully around the listener and identicle from any listening position. it keeps everything in shape.

The reason people don't relise this is because they don't have the right playback and the sound is masked and hidden and not presented good enough.

All sound is SURROUND, we hear it around us and we don't need satalite speakers or anything to hear it but we do need the right design speaker to give the full effect but even singleway speakers can provide totally amazing stereo (3d illusion if set up right).

In truth apart from tiny differences in recordings, The difference between stereo, surround or any other is how the sound is projected from the speakers to the listener, it doesnt' change the 3d perspective, only allows us as a human to percieve it from a particular location. You don't need 4 speakers to get surround.

Its all to do with the frequencys and arrival times, when playedback correct, 2 speakers will make the sound on a stereophonic record come out of the speakers torwards the listener. Not many relise the hidden truth, they all think its just left and right speaker, the truth in sound is masked by s*** playback. The hole in the middle when it sounds like left are right speaker only is because of the way the sound is not in corect balance. ideally the sound from 2 speakers can sound as 1 sound from the middle. I'm not going to say too much about it but its all possible and to listen to a stereo set up right is 20 times better than any surround cinema system. The way the sound appears to travel, its equivalent of watching a laser show, You need perfect quality to achieve these effects, go and read up as much as you can about the phatom image but don't get too sucked in by some peoples lack of knowledge. Some don't know how to re-balance the frequencys so they will never achieve the full illusion.

It's intersting stuff and I love it.

They haven't told the truths from day one, so everyone reads and follows their guidelines and will never know the truths. The information you may read will not tell the full truth, only guide you away from it.

The way to desribe REAL BALANCED STEREO, is to get in a room with a smoke machine and 2 torches, then cross the beams, you can move the beams towards the listener and to the sides, up and down. With the correct playback the projection to sound is amazing and not stupid poor quality satalite speakers or any extra speakers needed.

Now i'm going to tell you, they sell surround and hide the truth because they can make more money, you have to buy more speakers and even worse, the quality of surround can be really really terrible and still get an effect. With stereo it needs to be right, this is why stereo is so amazing because when you get the illusion and its right, the quality and expression of the sound is beyond words achieving the effects. with surround systems you pay more money, more speakers, more expensive. If I had my old system today and it was set, I'd love you demonstrate a few records to you guys. Once you heard, you'd never trust any magazine or sells person again. Unfortunately you have to take my word for it because the system has long gone

I sometime try and search for a modern equivalant but with no luck as of yet. Its tough because things are too expesive and they are not designed corectly. Some old equipment is more capable and can be balanced. Its just getting the right parts and old stuff may be worn out. So its hard to get real stereo today and the money costs they ask for is stupidly high for a top system and even then it don't mean its good.

Thanks for reading, hope i havent techiqualed your head lol.

I am a true MUSIC LOVER and believe me, once heard you won't want to hear anything else than real stereo.

You people wouldnt believe how poor quality shop sold stuff today actually is, they only care about money, I know this is hard to believe, ok some speakers are pritty good but you still need the source to power them corectly. I cannot express the difference other than giveing some extreme comparisons, then people think its exageration when it isn't.

Quality of sound is between us and the speakers by the way its played back. Its creating the illusion of more than 1 lot of sound to arrive sounding as if its one and giving a positivie location. if you can get the sound in focus from the speakers to the listner and send the corect persepctive, your enter another world of true stereo.

I tell you people the truth because true music lovers deserve the truth and should be able to enjoy their music to the maxium.

What i've heard will put goosebumps on your neck, churn your stomach with excitement. What you've heard will only make a noisey racket, sound nothing like it should and not give no expression to the soudn.

Sorry if I had rant but its all true and makes me sick because ive heard something special made to do the job and understand the lies about sound, they deceive everyone to make money, its not their fault, they are trying to survie with buissness but to me, its not good.

I tell you the truth, its possible on some old systems if you got patience to re-balance the frequencys correctly. Problem is getting matching parts to make it possible. I had a single unit that was designed very well and I could re-equalize the sound. I adjusted it, I used to have exceptional hearing, not sure about now but its knowing what to listen for. if you heard me setting up, you would think what the hell is he doing but once I finsihed, you would be gobsmacked. with good system its harder to move the slider minutely than it is to hear the change. its got to be very very close on every slider or the effect wont work, but its worth the titme to get it right, its priceless experience. once set, I could play any song and it sounded perfect. All that heard it said it sounded amazing, so it must have dam close to perfect as could get it.

Many people brought systems like mine in the past but none of them knew how to set them up or would have the patience. Nothing is perfect until its been tuned properly.

ps don't think you can get any system and tuen it because its impossible with most systems by design. This is what makes me angry and fed up. For example, you tune one of the sliders and it puts the other out of balance, and vica versa, you cant linearize the frequencys together in harmony, they both have different focus points and projection and are not equal.

thanks for reading. Good luck if you want to experiement, any good results then let us know what parts you used.

cheers

[poppachubby]

I don't get it. In your first post you kept telling us about how great your system sounds, and how we "won't believe it".

Now you are saying,

Good luck if you want a system like this my friend. If I get something that works, ill let ya know which parts and how to set it so you can have sound which is shockingly amazing.

So which is it? Have you got the goods or not?

All I wanted to know was the names of the components you are using...

[Mr Peabody]

I guess "nice write up" is subjective although I personally couldn't make heads or tails out of what he was trying to say. And, because "tiny little" speakers for surround sound happen to be sold or offered doesn't mean every one uses them. Some buy them out of ignorance, some to save space and some are on a budget but I doubt they make up the majority of home theater sales.

[mlsstl]

Back to the original question, I heard a pair of mid-size Jamo towers (600 series, I think) this afternoon at a friend's house. I was not overly impressed; the bass was a bit on the heavy side (and position in the room didn't seem to be an issue) and I found nothing particularly engaging about the midrange.

In short, they struck me as a fairly mediocre speaker. While there are certainly a lot of variables that can affect things that I had no way to experiment with this afternoon, there was nothing about them that made me think I wanted to take a closer look at them in the future.

[NMyTree]

Back to the original question, I heard a pair of mid-size Jamo towers (600 series, I think) this afternoon at a friend's house. I was not overly impressed; the bass was a bit on the heavy side (and position in the room didn't seem to be an issue) and I found nothing particularly engaging about the midrange.

In short, they struck me as a fairly mediocre speaker. While there are certainly a lot of variables that can affect things that I had no way to experiment with this afternoon, there was nothing about them that made me think I wanted to take a closer look at them in the future.

What series and model are they?

What source and amplifiaction were feeding them?