What band do you miss?

[Troy]

Not that I'm stickin' up for Finchy here . . . but . . .

The first 3 Journey albums are vastly different from the Steve Perry incarnation of the band. That they belong lumped into the group of bands like REO Speedwagon or Kansas came later. The first 3 Journey albums belong lumped with bands like Santana, Robin Trower or the first Ambrosia album.

I'd argue MGH that those first 3 albums never really found that big an audience, no, check that. They never found the right audience, because fans of the early Journey and later Journey tend to be people with vastly different tastes and expectations. Steve Parry fans bought the first 3 albums and didn't understand them and thought they sucked. See also Genesis.

Part of it also is that both Finch and I are bay area natives who grew up in the 70s when these first Journey albums were local staples, virtually unknown outside CA, so we both remember this band when they were, in fact, good.

[bobsticks]

Soundgarden: the natural evolution of the Beattles.

[Finch Platte]

Not that I'm stickin' up for Finchy here . . . but . . .

The first 3 Journey albums are vastly different from the Steve Perry incarnation of the band. That they belong lumped into the group of bands like REO Speedwagon or Kansas came later. The first 3 Journey albums belong lumped with bands like Santana, Robin Trower or the first Ambrosia album.

I'd argue MGH that those first 3 albums never really found that big an audience, no, check that. They never found the right audience, because fans of the early Journey and later Journey tend to be people with vastly different tastes and expectations. Steve Parry fans bought the first 3 albums and didn't understand them and thought they sucked. See also Genesis.

Part of it also is that both Finch and I are bay area natives who grew up in the 70s when these first Journey albums were local staples, virtually unknown outside CA, so we both remember this band when they were, in fact, good.

As usual, you've said it much better than I.

It's funny, when you look Journey up on AllMusic, the first 3 discs get 2 stars each, and then when Perry joins, they get 4 stars for Infinity and even 4.5 stars for Evolution!

They played Stockton wayyyyy back when, and when the concert was over, we drove around to the back of the Civic Auditorium in hopes we'd see some of the group. All we saw was Ansley, getting into his Porche for the drive back to the Bay Area. We shouted something, and he waved. Woohoo!

Sorry, but I dig the times changes in the songs on the first 3 discs that were all but snuffed when Perry joined.

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[BradH]

Sorry, but I dig the times changes in the songs on the first 3 discs that were all but snuffed when Perry joined.

I should probably check those out because I really like Steve Smith.

[Troy]

I should probably check those out because I really like Steve Smith.

Steve Smith came later, it was Aynsley Dunbar on those 3 discs.

[Finch Platte]

Steve Smith came later, it was Aynsley Dunbar on those 3 discs.

Yeah, but Smith's pretty badass, and his drums usually sound phenomenal.

[BradH]

Yeah, but Smith's pretty badass, and his drums usually sound phenomenal.

Speaking of that, I've been wondering lately how many professional drummers actually know how to tune their drums instead of relying on a tech to do it for them. Obviously I'm not talking about the likes of Bozzio or Colaiuta here.

[nobody]

Bozzio?