Quote Originally Posted by bobsticks
So I'm not some old codger sitting around with a pipe, but let's get real.

Really? Because...

Quote Originally Posted by bobsticks
I suppose there is some artistry in modern hip-hop--if one considers a breadth of knowledge of other people's work, the skill to manipulate that into something conforming to legal standards, and the ability to intertwine it with the requisite themes of mysogeny and victimization artistry. I fail to see how a computer programmer composing three minute ditties can be compared with concentrated efforts by masters in the realms of jazz and classical.
codger is as codger does.

And a statement like "requisite themes of mysogeny and victimization artistry" makes me doubt that you have "scads" of rap record, but rather suggests a gross misunderstanding of hiphop. It's like suggesting that all metal is about Satan, or all country is about cheating dogs, or all jazz is masturbatory noodling, or all opera is about vikings.

I will admit that hip-hop is a crazy frustrating genre. It's a hot and cold, hit and miss genre. They need to outlaw skits and guest appearances by everyone's cousin. But, if you fail to see the artistry in Sugar Hill Gang's "Rappers Delight", or Paul's Boutique's "Sounds of Science" or Chamillionaire's "Ridin' Dirty," then no one is ever going to convince you otherwise. Whether its high art or low art is irrelevant if the audience is not even looking.