Quote Originally Posted by Heywood Djahblomie
lot a argument for a genre that sucked for over 40 years

Why? bunch of hacks took over...jazz was better when it was strung out on drugs
So, Jaco Pastorius, Pat Metheny, John Scofield...all hacks, eh? Hmm, I thought Jaco did drugs. Yes, I'm certain of it because he didn't suck. But wait, all those fuzak smoothies in the 80's put a season's crop of blow up their nose and they still sucked. Ah, that's because jazz has sucked for 40 years. Oh yeah, you nailed it. Thanks for clearing that up.

Quote Originally Posted by MindGoneHaywire
I would offer that there's a bigger difference, musically speaking, between Return To Forever & Paul Whiteman, than there is between Patti Smith & GG Allin.
Actually, you might be surprised at the phases RTF went through. It started out rather cool & Latin flavored, moved into the heavy fusion phase w/ DiMeola then, in the late 70's, went into a....(wait for it)....big band phase. So, maybe Paul Whiteman isn't so far away after all. But I take your point, you're talking about Romantic Warrior, etc. Fine, but Weather Report was the jazziest of fusion bands. If you ban Shorter & Zawinul to the kid's table then you're going Wynton on me.

This gets into the whole B's Brew thing but we'll save that for later. I think it's on the list.