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    Triumph?????

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    And various tracks by Krokus, Triumph, The Make-Up, Wire, Bonnie "Prince" Billy.

    Triumph? I'm starting to think you might just be a closet Canadian.

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    Pink Floyd- Animals. Toldja I'd listen to it. It's really good, eh?

    A Clockwork Orange Soundtrack. Love that old Moog junk. About as close to classical as I get.

    XTC- Nonsuch. Books ARE burning.

    Blur- Modern Life is Rubbish. Their best album.

    Peter Gabriel 1. The Burgermeister IS moribund. Undervalued album.

    Flower Kings- Stardust disc 2. Yep. I like it, but I'm a candy ass.

    Eric Matthews- It's Heavy in Here. Beatles based pop.

    William Orbit- Strange Cargo- Sooooooooo 80s!

    Elton John- Honkey Chateau. Love it.

    Adventures of Jet- Muscle. Bought on FP's suggestion for a couple bucks. Sounds like The Cars and all the songs are about street racing and muscle cars. Silly.

    Laika and the Cosmonauts- Local Warming. A new one from them. Their best album! The writing is much improved and that Ventures sound, more refined.

    Robyn Hitchcock- Queen Elvis. Yes, he really sings "If I was man enough, I'd come on your stump". Very strange jangle pop.

    Making more Garageband musics. It brings extreme pleasure into my day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ex Lion Tamer
    Triumph? I'm starting to think you might just be a closet Canadian.

    Go Habs Go!
    I still slap on THUNDER SEVEN every once in a while...
    If being afraid is a crime we'll hang side-by-side,
    at the swingin' party down the line..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ex Lion Tamer
    Triumph? I'm starting to think you might just be a closet Canadian.
    I've been accused of having a Canadian accent, whateverthehell that means. I also got slapped a couple weeks ago by a Canadian woman,* so if that's what being a Canadian is all about, no thanks. I'm proud to be a kind, gentle, humble AMERICAN.

    Oh yeah, Triumph. Rae was at my place and I was displaying my best music by playing some Krokus on vinyl ("Midnite Maniac" to be specific). He mentioned how he saw this Triumph DVD with cheesy videos, and on cue I pulled out my Allied Forces CD. I played "Fool For Your Love" and "Magic Power." I admit to really liking the former quite a bit, and have since the album came out.

    Speaking of Canadian artists, have your heard of Controller.Controller?

    EDIT: Also, speaking of "Lock up your hats!" I listened to part of A Bell Is a Cup ..., including "Boiling Boy" yesterday.

    *Disclaimer: This is a woman I know and work with and we were both hammered. I (apparently - I don't remember) made a crude comment to someone else and got smacked.
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    Maybe I'm just a Canadian Music snob

    Quote Originally Posted by Stone
    I've been accused of having a Canadian accent, whateverthehell that means.
    That means that you say "eh" at the end of every sentence.

    Funny, I've been accused of having an American accent, specifically, New York/Brooklyn, people have said the same thing about my daughters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stone
    Oh yeah, Triumph. Rae was at my place and I was displaying my best music by playing some Krokus on vinyl ("Midnite Maniac" to be specific). He mentioned how he saw this Triumph DVD with cheesy videos, and on cue I pulled out my Allied Forces CD. I played "Fool For Your Love" and "Magic Power." I admit to really liking the former quite a bit, and have since the album came out.
    Triumph falls into the same category for me as bands like Max Webster, April Wine, Helix, Honeymoon Suite, Aldo Nova, Glass Tiger...bands that were thrust on the Canadian public despite their lack of any meaningful songwriting talent, because of the CRTC (equivalent of the FCC), rules for Canadian content - sort of a musical affirmative action. These "rules" have created for me, a (perhaps false) perception, that most Canadian bands who get airplay in Canada, and not in the U.S. are utter crap, popular here only because of content rules. Given your and Jar's endorsement of Triumph, maybe I'm wrong, obn them anyway. Any other cheesy Canadian 80's bands that you think are wothwhile?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stone
    Speaking of Canadian artists, have your heard of Controller.Controller?
    Nope, I'll check them out, but only if you think I should.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stone
    EDIT: Also, speaking of "Lock up your hats!" I listened to part of A Bell Is a Cup ..., including "Boiling Boy" yesterday.
    A fine album, highly underrated (at least by me, up to now.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ex Lion Tamer
    Triumph falls into the same category for me as bands like Max Webster, April Wine, Helix, Honeymoon Suite, Aldo Nova, Glass Tiger...bands that were thrust on the Canadian public despite their lack of any meaningful songwriting talent, because of the CRTC (equivalent of the FCC), rules for Canadian content - sort of a musical affirmative action. These "rules" have created for me, a (perhaps false) perception, that most Canadian bands who get airplay in Canada, and not in the U.S. are utter crap, popular here only because of content rules. Given your and Jar's endorsement of Triumph, maybe I'm wrong, obn them anyway. Any other cheesy Canadian 80's bands that you think are wothwhile?
    Not sure of any other "cheesy" Canadian 80s bands I think are worthwhile, but I think you should add Platinum Blonde to your list. Man, they were in constant rotation on MuchMusic in the mid-80s. Triumph did make a small splash in the states, as did April Wine, Aldo Nova and Glass Tiger. None of them were ever huge here, though. I do have a Honeymoon Suite album, but I don't think I've ever listened to it, and it's not at the top of my priority list.



    Nope, I'll check them out, but only if you think I should.
    I've never heard them, just read a few things about them (and that they're supposed to be the next hot thing outta Canada), so don't purchase it based on anything I say.


    A fine album, highly underrated (at least by me, up to now.)
    I like it a lot too. Do you have Manscape or any of the Wir stuff? If so, is it worth checking out?

    Stone

    P.S. How could you possibly call a song with lyrics like these "cheesy":

    Just between you and me
    Baby I know our love will be,
    Just between you and me
    Always I know our love will be,
    Just between you and me

    Lovers often seem to say
    Hearts can be blind to love gone astray,
    Always it's the same old song,
    Someone's been hurt by love that's gone wrong.
    And the world will turn to flowing pink vapor stew.

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    From one Canuck to another

    Quote Originally Posted by Ex Lion Tamer
    Triumph falls into the same category for me as bands like Max Webster, April Wine, Helix, Honeymoon Suite, Aldo Nova, Glass Tiger...bands that were thrust on the Canadian public despite their lack of any meaningful songwriting talent, because of the CRTC (equivalent of the FCC), rules for Canadian content - sort of a musical affirmative action. These "rules" have created for me, a (perhaps false) perception, that most Canadian bands who get airplay in Canada, and not in the U.S. are utter crap, popular here only because of content rules. Given your and Jar's endorsement of Triumph, maybe I'm wrong, obn them anyway. Any other cheesy Canadian 80's bands that you think are wothwhile?
    Hey Mark, I really have to disagree with you on the Triumph front. I grew up listening to most of the bands that you mentioned above and would agree with you about the CRTC rules on some accounts, but I don't think that Triumph would be in that category. In fact, Triumph was successful in the US, not just in Canada.

    I think that Triumph rocked in their day. They were good, clean, rock and roll fun. Their songs always had a positive note. Sure, that might have made some of the lyrics cheesy, but so what. I've heard a lot worse as far as lyrics go. And, while the talent levels of Levine and Moore were nothing to write home about, Rik Emmett was highly under-rated as a guitarist.

    While you rate Triumph with the likes of Helix and Honeymoon Suite, I would put them up there with Rush and Saga.

    Triumph may not have been your cup of tea, but you should give some of Rik Emmett's solo stuff a listen. I think that you'll be surprised at how good he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverAutumn
    Hey Mark, I really have to disagree with you on the Triumph front. I grew up listening to most of the bands that you mentioned above and would agree with you about the CRTC rules on some accounts, but I don't think that Triumph would be in that category. In fact, Triumph was successful in the US, not just in Canada.
    I know that I am being unfair to not only Triumph, but all the bands I listed, as whatever I heard on the radio was all I knew of them, so there may well have been quality music coming from any of them. My rant was more against the CRTC and the perception that it fostered in me that I was being force-fed "Canadian" music. Compound this with the fact that the 1980s saw a general malaise, (again my perception) in radio programming, so I started looking elsewhere...college radio, underground and british music press, word of mouth, for new and interesting music to me. There could have been all kinds of worthy Canadian bands, but if there was no underground buzz about them, I ignored them.

    As far as Triumph is concerned, I have heard a lot of good things about Rik Emmett, so I'm sure lumping them in with Honeymoon Suite is probably wrong. But they were part of the late 70's early 80s hard rock scene that included bands like Rush, Styx, Heart, Toto, Journey, Asia, Boston that, though they made up a staple of my listening diet in high school, by the time London Calling came out, in 1980, I simply had no interest anymore.

    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverAutumn
    Triumph may not have been your cup of tea, but you should give some of Rik Emmett's solo stuff a listen. I think that you'll be surprised at how good he is.
    Thanks Autumn, I just may do that.

    And a quick word about the playoffs, which start tonite, for me anyway. Doesn't this just feel like a great year. The East is so wide open, I wouldn't be surprised if any one of 7 teams make it to the finals. The only one that would surprise me is the Islanders, and yet, I'm picking them to upset Tampa Bay in round 1. Good luck to the Leafs. But please don't mistake the polite well-wishing as rooting for them in any way. Not gonna happen. I just like way too much the fact that since the leafs last cup win, the Habs have won...

    10!
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    Helix!

    Gimme an R! (R!!)
    O! (O!!)
    C! (C!!)
    K! (K!!)
    Whatcha Got? (ROCK!!)
    Wan Whatcha Gonna Do?? (ROCK YOU!!)

    hehe.. I even had the album before that (NO REST FOR THE WICKED, 1983) with "Heavy Metal Love" and "Check out the Love" - very catchy for a pop metal band.. yea, back in 83/84, if it was metal, I bought it. Remember Kick Axe?? Heavy Metal Shuffle! God that sounds so lame today... but I could listen and rock out to that album, simply for nostalgia's sake.. (VICES, 1984)

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    A quick "you had to be there" story.

    Quote Originally Posted by -Jar-
    Helix!

    Gimme an R! (R!!)
    O! (O!!)
    C! (C!!)
    K! (K!!)
    Whatcha Got? (ROCK!!)
    Wan Whatcha Gonna Do?? (ROCK YOU!!)

    -jar
    Toronto's National League Lacrosse team is called the Toronto Rock. This song is played after almost every Rock goal and lacrosse games usually end with scores in the teens. So, as you can imagine, this Helix song gets played A LOT at Rock games. (I hope they're getting royalties).

    Well, a couple of games ago, there was a guy sitting a couple of rows behind us who was really into the game....yelling and cheering and yahooing, and just having a great time. As the game went on, he got more vocal (probably the beer kicking in). After a Rock goal, they played the Helix song. This guy was yelling "Gimme an R", "Gimme an O", at the top of his lungs. Then he got to "watcha got", but instead he yelled....

    "What does that spell?"

    We cracked up and it kept up going for the rest of the night. After that, every goal had us yelling "what does that spell?".

    Yeah, like I said....you had to be there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stone

    *Disclaimer: This is a woman I know and work with and we were both hammered. I (apparently - I don't remember) made a crude comment to someone else and got smacked.
    Wow, this thread is a blast from the past.

    I really wish I could remember the episode that is the subject of the disclaimer I posted back in 2004.

    And hey Pat, how have you been?
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