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[GMichael]

But, why is it OK for the US to have any weapons it wants and at the same time we dictate to all other countries what they can and cannot do? No wonder the majority of the world hates the US!

Because we were the first to steal all the Nazi intelligence, put them in Los Alamos, and was the first to build it............the World at that time was a different place........America lived in a different context and a different role...............now, 60 years later, we all discover it is more than we bargained for............and if placed in the wrong hands...........well........you know.

Both good points.
The more we try to stop them, the more they will want to use them on us when they are ready. And they will eventually be ready, no matter how much we puff out our chests and bark orders like we run the globe. Wouldn't it be better to teach them how to be responsible with this great big stick they are building? Maybe trade them tips for the promise of them learning how NOT to use them?
It sounds normal to me that any country that does not have nukes would want to join the party. But they need to be taught that having them and using them are two different things. The last thing we need to do it to piss them off so much that we become their testing grounds. Granted, they would end up worse than us, but we still wouldn't enjoy it.
These people are going to end up with nukes in their hands no matter what we say. Will we makes those hands the right ones, or the hateful wrong ones?

[ForeverAutumn]

Wouldn't it be better to teach them how to be responsible with this great big stick they are building?

If they wanted to be responsible, they wouldn't be playing with plutonium in the first place.

[GMichael]

If they wanted to be responsible, they wouldn't be building weapons like this in the first place.

I just don't see a way of stopping them. It's going to happen. Either behind closed doors or above board. I'd rather see the latter.

[Hyfi]

Both good points.
The more we try to stop them, the more they will want to use them on us when they are ready. And they will eventually be ready, no matter how much we puff out our chests and bark orders like we run the globe. Wouldn't it be better to teach them how to be responsible with this great big stick they are building? Maybe trade them tips for the promise of them learning how NOT to use them?
It sounds normal to me that any country that does not have nukes would want to join the party. But they need to be taught that having them and using them are two different things. The last thing we need to do it to piss them off so much that we become their testing grounds. Granted, they would end up worse than us, but we still wouldn't enjoy it.
These people are going to end up with nukes in their hands no matter what we say. Will we makes those hands the right ones, or the hateful wrong ones?

The only reason to have them, is to use them.

[MasterCylinder]

The only reason to have them, is to use them.

Sincerely,
Harry Truman

[GMichael]

The only reason to have them, is to use them.

I'm sure they feel the same about us having them.

Don't get me wrong. I'd rather not see anyone with nukes. (us included) I just don't see a way that will stop it from happening. The information is already out there for them to use. Supplies will always be available to anyone willing to pay enough. All we are doing is making enemies.
If we have a way of stopping them without starting WWIII then I'm all for it.