Apogee Acoustics Synergy 1.5

[basite]

22K is a very fair price for these speakers. I consider them a bargain! The frame is made out of stone, uses the most powerfull rare earth magnets. CNC cut ribbons, can be fully actively driven or passively. Its an exclusive product for an exclusive crowd. The Apogee Scintilla was 27K when introduced in Germany. The DIVA was 36K and my GRANDS over 123K if you wanted one. How was 7500$ back in 83 in the US compared to now?

The priced of used Apogees will rise because you can restore them! :-) I sold my DIVA for 12500EUR. Like i always said, these are not normal and one should not expect to find one cheap and throw them in that range. The new Synergy will easily hang with 60K Wilsons, and up! This is the planar playing field waaay after the Maggie field. So, give them a whirl if you can ;-)

Cheers

Flo

PS: Joe, grab an Apogee as soon as you can, cause they aint gonna get cheaper

why do they have to be so expensive??
Flo, you must be one of the 25 luckiest man on the world having the grands,

i heard martin logan's at the hi-fi show in brussels, didn't knew which model, didn't knew the price (if i see those prices, i actually dont wanna know) and they sounded really really good too, real clear, but then again really different compared to boxed speakers.

if only i had room, and money (alot of money)

greetz,
basite.

[JoeE SP9]

Flo;
I've got buyers for both pairs of Acoustats coming over this weekend!

[E-Stat]

Flo;
I've got buyers for both pairs of Acoustats coming over this weekend!

As a student of electrostats, you really need to listen to a pair of A-1/M-1/U-1s.

rw

[Florian]

To Dusty: Yes, they are insane! But like i said many times, these where never targeted for the normal. My 85K speaker was limited to 25 pairs and made for millioners. Of course they are not normal, but why should they?

To E-Stat: I love E-Stat's too, but would not consider them to be better or worse then true ribbon speakers. I would gladly live with both. But just like regular planars, they need huge surface area to make any bass and dynamic headroom. A E-Stat in the size of the Apogee Duetta, Scintilla or new Synergy wont have the resolution, bass and dynamics. Once you go higher, the gap closes. But please dont missunderstand, i sit both technologys on the same level but i would recommend a Apogee over the Acoustat for Joe.

Then again, joe knows Apogees and heard the GRAND. Wee.....

[E-Stat]

But just like regular planars, they need huge surface area to make any bass and dynamic headroom. A E-Stat in the size of the Apogee Duetta, Scintilla or new Synergy wont have the resolution, bass and dynamics.

Output with a similarly smaller array, no. Resolution yes. There is a reason that ALL high end microphones are condenser (electrostatic).

Once you go higher, the gap closes.

Indeed. It's all about radiating area. The U-1s have significantly more than the Synergy, not to mention the Majestics which are simply huge.

rw

[Florian]

Output with a similarly smaller array, no. Resolution yes. There is a reason that ALL high end microphones are condenser (electrostatic).

Not to mention the RoyaLabs Ribbon microphones ;-) Either way, i have yet to hear a E-Stat take on a Apogee ribbon in inner resolution I love E-Stats too, but i woudnt dare put one above the other.

Indeed. It's all about radiating area. The U-1s have significantly more than the Synergy, not to mention the Majestics which are simply huge.

rw

Yes, but you should compare the U1 to the Definitive or Fullrange.

[E-Stat]

Not to mention the RoyaLabs Ribbon microphones ;-)

Never heard of them. A google search finds nothing. The ones I see most often used, Neumann and Shoeps, are exclusively condenser.

Either way, i have yet to hear a E-Stat take on a Apogee ribbon in inner resolution

Well, the obvious question is have you heard one of the big Sound Labs?

Their other virtue is full range operation. JoeE and I have been spoiled by decades of absolute coherency. A piano is reproduced by a single driver, not two or three different ones.

rw

[Mike Anderson]

To Dusty: Yes, they are insane!

No no. He said YOU'RE insane.

[JoeE SP9]

As a student of electrostats, you really need to listen to a pair of A-1/M-1/U-1s.

rw

My room just isn't large enough for the ones that have enough bass. Oh, the pity!
PS: I do have a lead on a pair of Acoustat Model 6's. That's 6 panels per side. Three wide and two high (7'10"x28"x3"). Kind of like 2+2's on steroids! They will just fit my room and have enough area to allow me to do away with my subs!
PPS: They are affordable!!!!

[Florian]

My friend, congratulations

Now that saves some money for you, but if you have some cash laying around give the Synergys a try. You know what i mean
Easy to drive 2.5ohms and 95db efficency.....mmmh 110db plus with 20Hz flat...tasty

[JoeE SP9]

My friend, congratulations

Now that saves some money for you, but if you have some cash laying around give the Synergys a try. You know what i mean
Easy to drive 2.5ohms and 95db efficency.....mmmh 110db plus with 20Hz flat...tasty

The idea sounds terrific Flo. I'm just not ready to fork out $20K+. You see, I've been looking at this Cayman. You know what I mean.

[E-Stat]

PS: I do have a lead on a pair of Acoustat Model 6's. That's 6 panels per side. ...They will just fit my room and have enough area to allow me to do away with my subs!
PPS: They are affordable!!!!

I have heard the newer Spectra 66 which is also a six panel model. Let me preface my current opinion. You will not find a greater enthusiast than me for Acoustats. I lived happily with four different pairs for over twenty five years. I met Bob Rieman and Jim Strickland when they first released the model X. They are excellent speakers. I tweaked mine a bit by rewiring them and bypassing the fuses. They are not, however, in the same league as the Sound Labs. Acoustats have a decided tonal personality and are a challenge to set up to minimize beaming. The nature of the SL design is for a much greater dispersion. The toroidal transformers and generally speaking, better parts, also makes for a higher resolution speaker. Not to mention it is a supportable product. One of the panels in my 2+2 arced and I could never fix it, despite cleaning and "popping" them.

As for cost, I bought mine used just having been refurbed and shipped from the factory with the latest panels and upgraded "backplates". There are some like that available now for a reduced price.

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You really need to hear them both for yourself. Upon hearing her favorite records, my wife commented "they are not there". Sonically, they simply disappear.

Good luck in your hunting. There are lots of good choices around.

rw