What's REALLY going on in Iraq.

[RGA]

RGA, your personal attacks on folks like me may play well to the left, but where I live calling someone KKK earns a trip outside.

KKK hate gays so doesFallwell aqnd all religious people - they cloak it in words like "we don;t hate you but your a sinner blah blah - these people are WORSE than the KKK at least the KKK are up front and honest about their hate.

Strangely enough, Congress was Dem during the Reagan years. Who writes the budget? Oh yeah, Reagan MADE them do it. But wait! He didn't have the Patriot Act, so how?

Which democrat wrote Reganomicis again? Which Reagan haleped put Saddam in charge of Iraq and helped keep him there? Which country supplied the most arms to Iraq and which weapons were used to gas all those people again - yeah but guns don;t kill people people kill people - nice comfort except to the gassee.

All surpluses over the last couple of decades are sheer fiction. Our deficit is FAR worse than shown, and NEVER ran a surplus, unless you believe in fairy tales.

Never heard Bush say that ever in any debate - you must know more than him -- well I'd hope so so does Forest Gump.

We (the evil racist GOP) intentionally devalued the dollar a couple of years ago. We did this so the effects of the recession would be spread through the entire population vs hitting the poor the hardest, while giving exports a short-term boost. It also has the side effect of lowering the real value of our debt.

Hey no it's either the Evil racists biggetted anti gay GOP or the incompetant GOP - you are certainly welcome to choose the latter if you desire.

As our productivity continues to skyrocket, 'cause of the free flow of capitol (not told where it has to go, like so many socialist gov'ts) and the hard work of our citizens, the only likely result is a trend to increased wages and a stronger dollar. Of course, no one can see the future. But things look better than many would have one believe.

Well that makes no sense - what productivity is skyrocketing - ohh yeah the hard work of foreign slave labourers - but I forgot you're doing them a favour by giving them a job.

live on Lake Erie - at least our part of the country will be fine with water into the forseeable future. It wil be a problem soon for most - will you give the water away, or sell it?

No like most American tactics around the world - we'll sell you the product as we SOLD California hydro electricity to keep the state from going dark a few years ago - we'll charge you a lower rate then we could because Canada doesn't want to piss of the big bad America - and then when it comes toime to pay the Billions and Billions owed to us they pay ZERO. Then on top of that they do the ol' softwood lumber shtick for a thrid time for a SHORT term gain to keep your logger in an overinflated position. We grumble we take you to a world court and like the other two times we won on the same issue we'll win again but not before you got a 5 year run of jobs at the expense of workers and the industry here. And this is small potatoes compared the totallitarian work in Jamaica and Venezuala - making sure they have fair voting priactices like it'sa your job. Gods guns and anti-Gay nationalism sums up the Right pretty well. I'll give 5% of the Republican voters the benefit of the doubt (the ones who are NOT religious) for believing the rhetoric around finances.

Facts: We, and the UN, and Germany, and France, and Russia, and Canada had the same Iraqi documentation of the thousands of tons of chemical and biological weapons Iraq had produced.

That they had them NO ONE disputed. The argument was that it wasn't reason enough to invade. Powell, who the left tries to cop whenever they can, even though he works for Bush (?), was obviously on board 100%.

Please the information everyone had was America's information. Canada, Germany France Russia and Britain combined don't have the intelligence ability of the US. Iraq HAD produced it IRAQ also dumped it as they were TOLD to do and which was shown to be the case. The reason they were inspecting was to make sure they had no more of it or produced more of it. The American proof that Powell went over with that LAUGHABLE display of satelite images (They can read the DATE on a Dime in 1985 from sats in outer space but they can;t make out a truck clearly in 2001???) - See that truck thing there it's moving over there and they have cartons on it see and then that blurry thing over there with the red splotch is this other truck and that is the UN team see they are moving the other truck around. Yeah next time you're on trial for murder - you got love that evidence.

Which is why those countries didn't buy the tripe no one is that stupid (except the Republican voters of course) and why Canada stayed the hell out of it - gee along with France, Germany etc. Good ol Blaier love em was no doubt hoping to be the wing man to help steer Bush as much as possible form the nutty God has told me to free the world fanatacism of delusional dictators.

The real concern should be - where are they? Instead, it's - we told you so. Who? And what purpose does this serve?

Where are they ask Colin Powell, Condaleeza Rice and Bill Clinto before 9-11 - they all knew they all SAID it - how a day changes their mind. There is none because there was none.

The US isn't safer. This is quite frankly a load of crap. I haven't seen any buildings come down lately.

1) How many buildings came down before 9/11? How many came down a year after before plans were started to make it safe? This was a fringe group FROM AFGHANISTAN who attacked your country - and you've made a lackluster attempt at getting the culprit - why is that - you fly his family home - and you have a nice brief show of trying to get him bah.

2) safer - US citizens abroad are not safer - embassies getitng bombed way more than ever? more US citizens will die in Iraq by the end of it than that died on 9-11. And what if another attack happens? What will you say then? Just a fluke. That's the other thing wiith the Republicans - PARANOIA - It's pretty sad that I would agree with Pat Buchanen on Foreign policy - he's about as nutty as the right gets but on foreign policy he's closer to being right than most of the Right wing.

And the Iraqis? While one guy was talking to a kid on camera an adult walks by and makes this comment - so quick-like I had to rewind - something like "It would be better to starve than have Saddam as ruler".
Pete

Really it would be better to starve - than have free education all through to your PHD and then leave the country and emigrate to Canada and get a job - now they have no school or running water or electiricty and members of the family dead - yes it's better - let's see who the replacement is and who has the gauranteed contracts of their natural resource.(which has already been contracted without a leader's consent).

One Guy - One Guy interviewed in your street my call Bush the worst scourge to hit manking since Hitler - One guy could be very much overstating things. And according to the Fifth Estate part of the news here which inteviewed MANY Iraq citizens including members of their television networks - you would be VERY interested to have all the information on that scene where Iraqis pulled down the statue of Saddam Hussein and rode the head around. I'm surprised Michael Moore missed this one(probably because he's not a good researcher as he is a jokster) - but that was revealing bit of US propaganda - soince not a single person in the shot was born or came from Iraq. Also of interest was that no one came from the other two ajoining streets - and one happened to have an Iraq flag from many years ago and made illegal just in his pocket. Ohh this ios one small story to the others your media NEVER ina bazillian ytears will show. But this goes back to WWII - your new was just as one sided.

I'm not coming back to this thread - largely because it doesn't matter - The religious Right will never ever even if thy had 100% evidence that Bush outright Lied would listen to it - I mean they have PROVEN beyond any shadow of a doubt that gay men do not choose to be gay but is biological - and even then they try and twist the science around - so there's no point.

You deserve the dictator you elect.