It is amazing how Republicans get fired up when they are questioned. That is very arrogant. Bush does that all the time. How dare anybody say Bush is wrong!! "

You did not say that Bush was wrong, you said he lied. Big difference. What "I" get fired up about is when people like yourself carelessly lump everyone into "we all" in your posts. Last time I checked you did not speak for "we all". Hense, my post stating "Speak for yourself".
I was referring to you when I said Republicans because you get very fired up when someone disagrees with you. Bush is a Republican and he has displayed an additude in the debates when Kerry has told him he was wrong. That is why I stated "How dare anybody say Bush is wrong" You don't seem to ever entertain the idea of him being wrong. That is very closed minded.


"I just stated that all politicians lie including our wonderful angelic president that could do now wrong. "

You did?
We can't even count on our president to tell us the truth....after all he is a politician
I am sorry but I lumped Bush in with all politicians. He still is a politician or am I wrong there too.

"I was assuming "all" people were smart enough to have looked at the facts and realized that the president has lied to us."

Bye all means, keep clinging to that little shred of worthless nonsense to make you feel better.
I would like to think that people in this country are smart. I am very sorry if you feel that is "worthless nonsense". Maybe in your neck of the woods the people aren't very smart.

" According to JSE there is no way that for these people the lying didn't bother them or they simply voted based on different issues."

No, but I would be willing to bet that most of these people can see the difference between being a liar and being wrong. Apparently you can't.
The statement I made about being wrong was an observation made about the arrogance of our president. He acts like he is above being wrong. Of course I know the difference between a liar and wrong. I am one of those smart people I was talking about.

"I don't believe everything that politicians tell me. If it is an issue that I feel matters to me I will research it and come to my own conclusion as to who is corrrect about the issue. "

I would hope so.
I haven't seen very much evidence that you have done this. All of your arguments are exactly what Bush has stated many times in his speeches. Do you have your own thoughts?