Tough Decisions for Obama

[nightflier]

Well, it looks like Geithner's going to stay. Two out of the three cheats gone, that's still better. So there, let's move on.

[02audionoob]

Well, it looks like Geithner's going to stay. Two out of the three cheats gone, that's still better. So there, let's move on.

Just so I'm clear...are you in charge of deciding when we move on?

[bobsticks]

Well, it looks like Geithner's going to stay. Two out of the three cheats gone, that's still better. So there, let's move on.

It's only better if they're replaced with individuals of greater ethical standing. Recent history leaves little room for optimism.

[Rich-n-Texas]

Recent history leaves little room for optimism.

Well, since it's a given Obama will only be tapping other democrats, I'd have to agree sticks.

[nightflier]

Well, since it's a given Obama will only be tapping other democrats....

...that's not a given either.

[bobsticks]

Is Jim Ortenzio available for the position?

[nightflier]

Is Jim Ortenzio available for the position?

A tax-evader and a republican? Cute. In any case I doubt Obama will be appointing any tax-evaders from here on out. He doesn't strike me as the type to wants to say "I screwed up" on national TV twice - especially since Fox & Limbaugh have been having a field day with it.

That said, he could very well pick a stand-up Republican for the job, trouble is, they're pretty hard to come by.

Threw you a bone, Tex.

[Rich-n-Texas]

That's 'cause they're all in j.....

Whoa! What am I sayin'

[Rich-n-Texas]

Slightly OT... Has anyone seen the Youtube born Obama impersonator? He's hilarious! He adds just the right amount of exageration to be side-splitting funny. He apparently is a rapper by trade (so to speak I guess) so in some of his skits he's impersonating Barack doing a rap song. Funny as all get out!

[Mr Peabody]

I can't believe out of all of you yappin it up here that no one recognized that I brought this up way back when Geithner was first nominated! No one pays any attention to me around here, you have to be some damn beacon of light or some shtuff. Anyway, if anyone cares, I agree with Rich and Geithner should have NEVER been put in that office. Goes to show as on this board, Washington has a double standard. One set of rules for the masses and another for the BS politicians. What I want to know is how they got away without paying taxes. It ain't like no one knows where they work. Congress sets the laws the IRS has to play by, these rats get away with it while your grandma's SSA could be garnished for some $500.00 tax bill a few years old she done forgot about where she flubbed up, maybe she took money out of an IRA and didn't have tax withheld and couldn't pay when filing. Don't let anyone fool you, it's the little guy, the working man who don't have a choice about having the tax withheld that's footing the damn bill for this country. Corporations run this country and between the loop holes and give aways don't pay jack for tax. Same with the rich, not the Rich, the rich. It's like we have no values, ethics or honor any more. It's like no one cares and everyone is walking around in a daze, "don't rock my boat man, I'm having a moment". Well, Bush, overdosed on power sent everyone a tidal wave and we elected Obama. If he don't come through and the first days haven't impressed me much, I guess we are......... sunk.

So would you rather have your president doing Monica, OR YOU!!? I don't know what that's about but it looks good so it stays. Hell, no one will read it any way.

[bobsticks]

Whoa there, Mr. P-Nelly...I think we all got caught up in the argument between the foreigners and Nightflier versus the people that actually like America. Ain't nobody tryin' to steal your thunder. You were absolutely right, of course.

And, I think that everyone recognised it but it's a matter of having such perpetually lowered expectations that no one ever expected anything to be done about it. I still say it matters not one whit if the subsequent nominations are as venal as the former.

The only thing that you and I differ on is that I think everyone pays too much in taxes...that and I'd rather have my President doing someone hotter than Monica. He is the Prez, after all. You gotta respect the office.

[02audionoob]

JFK was doing someone hotter than Monica. Ah...the good old days.

[bobsticks]

That was Presidential...


...indeed.

[Mr Peabody]

There's no difference, heaven forbid, I hope it didn't sound like I thought we didn't pay enough taxes. Or, are you trying to tell me you're rich. That's rich, not Rich. Of course, you could be Rich too, we'll have to look into that.

[bobsticks]

There's no difference, heaven forbid, I hope it didn't sound like I thought we didn't pay enough taxes. Or, are you trying to tell me you're rich. That's rich, not Rich. Of course, you could be Rich too, we'll have to look into that.

Lol.

My friend, I am neither rich nor am I Rich nor do I think you are tax-and-spend.

Too many people look at it as though whatever taxes are levied are necessarily righteous. My problem is that I see the budgets and the reports (as I'm sure you have access, as well). The amount of waste both within our borders and outside is shameful.
Our ideas are old and outdated and no politicians are addressing substanitive issues.

[Rich-n-Texas]

There's no difference, heaven forbid, I hope it didn't sound like I thought we didn't pay enough taxes. Or, are you trying to tell me you're rich. That's rich, not Rich. Of course, you could be Rich too, we'll have to look into that.

My friend, I am neither rich nor am I Rich nor do I think you are tax-and-spend

Got my profit sharing check today.

[GMichael]

I can't believe out of all of you yappin it up here that no one recognized that I brought this up way back when Geithner was first nominated! No one pays any attention to me around here, you have to be some damn beacon of light or some shtuff. Anyway, if anyone cares, I agree with Rich and Geithner should have NEVER been put in that office. Goes to show as on this board, Washington has a double standard. One set of rules for the masses and another for the BS politicians. What I want to know is how they got away without paying taxes. It ain't like no one knows where they work. Congress sets the laws the IRS has to play by, these rats get away with it while your grandma's SSA could be garnished for some $500.00 tax bill a few years old she done forgot about where she flubbed up, maybe she took money out of an IRA and didn't have tax withheld and couldn't pay when filing. Don't let anyone fool you, it's the little guy, the working man who don't have a choice about having the tax withheld that's footing the damn bill for this country. Corporations run this country and between the loop holes and give aways don't pay jack for tax. Same with the rich, not the Rich, the rich. It's like we have no values, ethics or honor any more. It's like no one cares and everyone is walking around in a daze, "don't rock my boat man, I'm having a moment". Well, Bush, overdosed on power sent everyone a tidal wave and we elected Obama. If he don't come through and the first days haven't impressed me much, I guess we are......... sunk.

So would you rather have your president doing Monica, OR YOU!!? I don't know what that's about but it looks good so it stays. Hell, no one will read it any way.

I'm sorry Mr P. Did you say something?

Joke! It's just a joke!

[Rich-n-Texas]

Nevertheless...

Mr. P, trust me when I say I share your anger towards the habitual greed our elected officials seem to be able to enjoy in this country. The old saying, "Absolute power corrupts absolutely" was written with the politician in mind. And government supported corporate greed makes me equally sick. We're all apathetic little rats in the eyes of most politicians I'm sure.

Moreover...

Had Obama not given the nod to this joker Geithner he'd STILL be cheating on his taxes. "It's only a crime if you get caught", right Mr. Treasury Secretary?

[Auricauricle]

I think it would be prudent, before any more mud is slung, for us all to take stock of the notion that while Bush and his merry men caroused through the night we, the People, chose to shut the door quietly and sleep it off. I do not recall one outburst of protest, not one whit of criticism, not one shred of censure. Instead of standing together in one voice and telling Washington we were fed up, we closed our eyes and pretended that the whole unpleasant business would go away. Well, we're still at war, the Fed is still squandering OUR money, and...and...

The election of Obama was a start; a clear and unequivocal statement that we Americans know that despite our failures, despite our excesses and depravity, can do much, MUCH better. I cannot predict that Obama will amount, as a statesman or a president or as a MAN, much better than Georgie Porgie. But he is symbolic in my mind of Hope that maybe, MAYBE, we will open the window at last and tell our neighbors to GET WITH THE PROGRAM!

[Rich-n-Texas]

I think it would be prudent, before any more mud is slung, for us all to take stock of the notion that while Bush and his merry men caroused through the night we, the People, chose to shut the door quietly and sleep it off. I do not recall one outburst of protest, not one whit of criticism, not one shred of censure. Instead of standing together in one voice and telling Washington we were fed up, we closed our eyes and pretended that the whole unpleasant business would go away. Well, we're still at war, the Fed is still squandering OUR money, and...and...

Exactly why I say apathetic. I'm as much to blame (even though I do vote) because I could easliy be dogging my elected officials via e-mail and letters, and making a PITA of myself, just like I do here.

The election of Obama was a start; a clear and unequivocal statement that we Americans know that despite our failures, despite our excesses and depravity, can do much, MUCH better. I cannot predict that Obama will amount, as a statesman or a president or as a MAN, much better than Georgie Porgie. But he is symbolic in my mind of Hope that maybe, MAYBE, we will open the window at last and tell our neighbors to GET WITH THE PROGRAM!

(Agrees and raises the American flag)

[Ajani]

Speaking of tough decisions for Obama:

Is he right in wanting to cap the salaries for executives of the bailed out banks?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_164544.html

The way I see it is simply that if you are willing to get down on your knees and beg for bailout, like a child asking daddy for a new toy, then you need to accept the fact that you've kissed your independence goodbye...

In tough times I could go beg my mom for money, but I know that there will be a cost to it... she'll get involved in my finances and want to keep track of my spending... Nothing is free... If you believe the free market will solve all your problems, then don't beg the government for favors..

Anyway, that's just my 2 cents...

[Auricauricle]

Well, many of these children never reached puberty, if you asked me. So there was no independence to lose, anyway. No favors; just bidness as usual for the powers that be and the elite. In the meantime, mebbe people who scrap and scrabble for a living are not "begging for a bailout", they're demanding what is rightfully theirs.

[Rich-n-Texas]

Speaking of tough decisions for Obama:

Is he right in wanting to cap the salaries for executives of the bailed out banks?

NO! They should all be taken out behind the barn and shot! Done! Then set some serious guidelines for the replacement.

In tough times I could go beg my mom for money, but I know that there will be a cost to it... she'll get involved in my finances and want to keep track of my spending... Nothing is free... If you believe the free market will solve all your problems, then don't beg the government for favors..

Anyway, that's just my 2 cents...

So you ARE going to buy the Parasound and Monitor Audio afterall!

[Rich-n-Texas]

So how come nobody has brought up the fact that three of Obama's appointees/nominees are tax cheats?

So, one full day since I made this remark, and still nothing from our resident America hater. Typical.

[Ajani]

NO! They should all be taken out behind the barn and shot! Done! Then set some serious guidelines for the replacement.

Agreed!

So you ARE going to buy the Parasound and Monitor Audio afterall!

Nope.. mommy said no... I'll have to save up for new toys on my own...