Tough Decisions for Obama

[JSE]

BTW, I sent a PM to SB last week that included a picture of me...

Haven't seen hide nor hair of her since.

You just better hope she never sees this photo or she'll be all mine.

[Groundbeef]

You just better hope she never sees this photo or she'll be all mine.

Is that a Pina Colada?

[JSE]

Is that a Pina Colada?

Frozen Margarita.

[Groundbeef]

Frozen Margarita.

That is good.

[GMichael]

I'm sure that it had nothing to do with your pic. It's what's on the inside that counts Rich. She'll be back when she can.
How did you put a pic in a PM anyhow? I couldn't see a way to do that.

[Rich-n-Texas]

I'm surprised it worked myself. I have a Photobucket account that allows me to use IMG tags that include the link to the source site.

[GMichael]

I'm surprised it worked myself. I have a Photobucket account that allows me to use IMG tags that include the link to the source site.

Oh yeah. That's how people can post so many pics at a time. I've been meaning to learn how to do that but never seem to make the time.

[nightflier]

So I'm getting the sense that every thread about Obama eventually narrows to a discussion about alcohol or the size of someone's manhood. Seems to me that this would be much more apropos in Bush's first term, after all, he'd probably join in the conversation. Or are ya'll just miffed that Obama's the type of guy who probably wouldn't do that?

[JSE]

So I'm getting the sense that every thread about Obama eventually narrows to a discussion about alcohol or the size of someone's manhood. Seems to me that this would be much more apropos in Bush's first term, after all, he'd probably join in the conversation. Or are ya'll just miffed that Obama's the type of guy who probably wouldn't do that?

I started it so I can end it however I want!

[bobsticks]

So I'm getting the sense that every thread about Obama eventually narrows to a discussion about alcohol or the size of someone's manhood. Seems to me that this would be much more apropos in Bush's first term, after all, he'd probably join in the conversation. Or are ya'll just miffed that Obama's the type of guy who probably wouldn't do that?

better?

[Rich-n-Texas]

There's a method to my madness 'flier.

[Rich-n-Texas]

Cartman, if she found out what you do for a living she'd dump you like so much turkey manore(sp?).

[JSE]

She's not into exotic dancers?

[Rich-n-Texas]

Welp, looks like this thread's back on track (barely) so I'm outta here!

[JSE]

Welp, looks like this thread's back on track (barely) so I'm outta here!

Give it time.

[nightflier]

So Sticks, what're ya sayin'?

[bobsticks]

So Sticks, what're ya sayin'?

This site is populated by a vast number of individuals whose political ideals run the gambit from far Right to far Left. Within that group a good many, if not most, present educated arguments and strive for a common sense middleground all of which will be based on life experience and perception.

There's been a great deal of conflict 'round these parts recently, mostly between folks that have known each other(in a virtual sense) for several years or more. If the conversation went adrift it seems not so much a boys-will-be-boys thing but the natural giddy reaction derived from the proverbial female belch at a social gathering or a fart from the pulpit. It's awkward.

Most of the conservatives on the board have been forward in their willingness to give the incoming President a chance. And, I can't think of anyone that has categorically stated that the last eight years haven't been politically or socially redoubtable. Peeps recognize the need for a change, the amount of which may be debatable but it's too early on for that debate to be informed.

All that said, there's nothing wrong with a little intellectual and civil dissent. One can mention challenges, one can note tactical errors and one can even question the validity of certain choices in a meaningful and respectful way, which was the direction in which this thread was going before it became clear that sans more data this would turn into yet another ideological polemic.

It seems to me that if there was a discernable avoidance of hostility that it was done in the spirit of comraderie and positivity, albeit infantilistic. Nobody ascribed any of said infantilism to Obama's character. It wasn't a trashing. You, on the otherhand, seem to have drunk the Kool-Aid and anything less than absolute reverance toward BHO is cause for yet another trollish diatribe against the evils of corporatism and successful
individuals. The vid was merely to show that, contrary to your assertion, within the Obama machine there are also individuals who might stretch the boundaries of accepted taste.

At some point in the healing process of a nation you gotta get along to go along, especially in discussions of the hazy particular versus the defined paradigm.

[JSE]

This site is populated by a vast number of individuals whose political ideals run the gambit from far Right to far Left. Within that group a good many, if not most, present educated arguments and strive for a common sense middleground all of which will be based on life experience and perception.

There's been a great deal of conflict 'round these parts recently, mostly between folks that have known each other(in a virtual sense) for several years or more. If the conversation went adrift it seems not so much a boys-will-be-boys thing but the natural giddy reaction derived from the proverbial female belch at a social gathering or a fart from the pulpit. It's awkward.

Most of the conservatives on the board have been forward in their willingness to give the incoming President a chance. And, I can't think of anyone that has categorically stated that the last eight years haven't been politically or socially redoubtable. Peeps recognize the need for a change, the amount of which may be debatable but it's too early on for that debate to be informed.

All that said, there's nothing wrong with a little intellectual and civil dissent. One can mention challenges, one can note tactical errors and one can even question the validity of certain choices in a meaningful and respectful way, which was the direction in which this thread was going before it became clear that sans more data this would turn into yet another ideological polemic.

It seems to me that if there was a discernable avoidance of hostility that it was done in the spirit of comraderie and positivity, albeit infantilistic. Nobody ascribed any of said infantilism to Obama's character. It wasn't a trashing. You, on the otherhand, seem to have drunk the Kool-Aid and anything less than absolute reverance toward BHO is cause for yet another trollish diatribe against the evils of corporatism and successful
individuals. The vid was merely to show that, contrary to your assertion, within the Obama machine there are also individuals who might stretch the boundaries of accepted taste.

At some point in the healing process of a nation you gotta get along to go along, especially in discussions of the hazy particular versus the defined paradigm.

Jou Jus call me "infantilistic"?!?!

[bobsticks]

Jes mang, jes me did...

...nuttin' but Big Bwoy, rasta-Sticks luve for dem pappy show, Cartman duppy...

Irie, irie, eh?

[JSE]

Jes mang, jes me did...

...nuttin' but Big Bwoy, rasta-Sticks luve for dem pappy show, Cartman duppy...

Irie, irie, eh?

coo, Jus shecken mang!

[Feanor]

... Well I lied.

This site is populated by a vast number of individuals whose political ideals run the gambit from far Right to far Left. Within that group a good many, if not most, present educated arguments and strive for a common sense middleground all of which will be based on life experience and perception.
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It seems to me that if there was a discernable avoidance of hostility that it was done in the spirit of comraderie and positivity, albeit infantilistic. Nobody ascribed any of said infantilism to Obama's character. It wasn't a trashing. You, on the otherhand, seem to have drunk the Kool-Aid and anything less than absolute reverance toward BHO is cause for yet another trollish diatribe against the evils of corporatism and successful individuals. The vid was merely to show that, contrary to your assertion, within the Obama machine there are also individuals who might stretch the boundaries of accepted taste.

At some point in the healing process of a nation you gotta get along to go along, especially in discussions of the hazy particular versus the defined paradigm.

Far Left?? By no means, friends. Nobody here has expressed "far" Left views as the term has a world-wide meaning.

So far skewed to the Right is U.S. politics that it has distorted sensibilities of what is "common sense", "middle ground", "respectful", or "accepted taste". Concepts that challenge American conventionalities, ("defined paradigms"), are exterminated by Right-wing intellectual death squads.

Didn't somebody at CNN recently describe Rush Limbaugh as "currently the most prominent Republican"? I believe the biggest threat to the U.S. isn't Socalist, (much less Communism), but Fascist. (Or a more precise historical parallel, Falangist: look it up.)

[02audionoob]

... Well I lied.


Far Left?? By no means, friends. Nobody here has expressed "far" Left views as the term has a world-wide meaning.

So far skewed to the Right is U.S. politics that it has distorted sensibilities of what is "common sense", "middle ground", "respectful", or "accepted taste". Concepts that challenge American conventionalities, ("defined paradigms"), are exterminated by Right-wing intellectual death squads.

Didn't somebody at CNN recently describe Rush Limbaugh as "currently the most prominent Republican"? I believe the biggest threat to the U.S. isn't Socalist, (much less Communism), but Fascist. (Or a more precise historical parallel, Falangist: look it up.)

For someone who doesn't have disdain for Americans, you sure do trash the US a lot.

[Feanor]

For someone who doesn't have disdain for Americans, you sure do trash the US a lot.

Before you seek a cure you must acknowledge your illness. Denial doesn't work.

Or are you a death squad member?

[GMichael]

... Well I lied.


Far Left?? By no means, friends. Nobody here has expressed "far" Left views as the term has a world-wide meaning.

So far skewed to the Right is U.S. politics that it has distorted sensibilities of what is "common sense", "middle ground", "respectful", or "accepted taste". Concepts that challenge American conventionalities, ("defined paradigms"), are exterminated by Right-wing intellectual death squads.

Didn't somebody at CNN recently describe Rush Limbaugh as "currently the most prominent Republican"? I believe the biggest threat to the U.S. isn't Socalist, (much less Communism), but Fascist. (Or a more precise historical parallel, Falangist: look it up.)

I find that most Americans are skewed to the Left. The media is sure skewed so far to the Left as to have, "distorted sensibilities of what is "common sense". But that's just how I see it. Others may disagree, and I will fight for their right to do so.

By the way, Rush Limbaugh is an idiot IMO.

And we could use a little Socialism to control things like health care and utility costs. A hybrid between Capitalism and Socialism seems like the best bet to me. But that doesn't mean that I agree with everything the liberals of the world have to say. I disagree with points on both sides. What I disagree with most is the separation of parties. It seems like no democrats will agree with anything a Republican has to say and vise versa. Both parties spend way too much time trying to vilify the other. If they were to work together a little, they could actually get something fixed. But I doubt that will happen. It's like there's some kind of unwritten rule that if a Dem were to support a Rep (or Rep to Dem) then he/she would be drummed out of their party. tarred, feathered, and run out of town on a rail.
Less fighting and more cooperation would be a good thing. Our new Cheif seems to be saying the same thing. He's gets my support for that. Hope he can pull it off.

[Feanor]

I find that most Americans are skewed to the Left. The media is sure skewed so far to the Left as to have, "distorted sensibilities of what is "common sense". But that's just how I see it. Others may disagree, and I will fight for their right to do so.

By the way, Rush Limbaugh is an idiot IMO.

And we could use a little Socialism to control things like health care and utility costs. A hybrid between Capitalism and Socialism seems like the best bet to me. ...

You're a sensible voice, GM.

But believe me, the US isn't skewed to the Left. Most around here will agree that Limbaugh is an idiot yet he has the most popular talk show in the US. What are we to make of it?