Some feedback and opinions

[daviethek]

Sir T,

I'm a big believer in that. My wife and I have been married 25 years. At about the 12 year point, things went to sh!t. One of the strangest revelations that came out through our therapy and reconcilliation process was how much of me she just didn't understand. It was a shock. Although you've done a good job of describing your disgust for tats to us, she may have heard something a bit different. You never know.

Regardless, one thing is for sure, you didn't hate her for five years. A bit of love and perhaps a lot of bodily fluids pased between you two so it is a loss of good company and perhaps more indeed. Take a breath and make sure this what you want.

Don't listen to any Leonard Cohen for at least a month.

[bobsticks]

What you say is true. However, when you ask for opinions, you have to expect to get them. We're an opinionated bunch around here!

True so true, Fall Girl. FWIW, I wasn't eluding to any of your posts.

No Laughing Lenny, eh? Sounds like good advice Davie.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

What you say is true. However, when you ask for opinions, you have to expect to get them. We're an opinionated bunch around here!

I respected the opinion that I got, and was pleased to get them. I didn't expect anyone to agree with me, I was just looking for another perspective. I got it. I appreciated your comments, and your perspective. Peabody's is really the only one I took exception with, because his was nothing more than a immature little dig, another chance for him to display his displeasure about my comments regarding his continous whining(which gets on my damn nerves).

For the record, I support Sir T's decision to end his relationship. If he can live with his decision then it was the right one to make, regardless of the reasons. And he shouldn't give a rat's ass what any of us think. I'm even empathetic. You wake up one morning thinking that life is grand and the next minute everything's different and you're starting over. I've been there, and no matter how much Sir T may have to occupy his time and keep himself busy, he's got to be hurt.

I am bothered by this, not necessarily hurt. I would be hurt if she cheated(we have not talked about the repercussions of this). I would be hurt if she stole from me(we have not talked about the repercussions of this). I am bothered that she would do the very thing that I dislike so much(we have talked about this ad nauseum). I cannot be hurt because another individual makes a decision about their body, its their right to do whatever they want with it. I am not hurt that I did exactly what I said I would do if she did what she did(talked about ad nauseum).

So, although I expressed my opinion and I stand by it, I do support my brethren.

I appreciate your opinion AND your support.

[ForeverAutumn]

True so true, Fall Girl. FWIW, I wasn't eluding to any of your posts.

I didn't think that. But thanks for caring enough to want to clarify.

This thread needs more smilies...

[audio amateur]

Is it me or has this whole place turned white? (I'm not talking about this threads subject, just the visual aspect of the web-site)

[L.J.]

L.J. I think I remember a guy here with that name. It was a long time ago though.

I was chillin' at the beach man

[GMichael]

I was chillin' at the beach man

Welcome back. Hope you enjoyed the fun in the sun.
Now fire up that BBQ. We've got some very hungry partiers here. Got room for some ribs and chicken this time around?

[bobsticks]

I was chillin' at the beach man

I envy you, sir. This here's tornado country 'round these parts. We had one touch down in the city over the weekend and the sirens are going off as I type.

[bobsticks]

Is it me or has this whole place turned white?

Lilly-ass white, like a tractor pull in Mud Creek, Kentucky...but there's Sir T. and L.J. and several others to bring some diversity...and if I don't get some sun soon they're gonna make a whole new category on the census---"translucent".


Oh,I see that isn't what you meant.

[nightflier]

I am bothered by this, not necessarily hurt. I would be hurt if she cheated(we have not talked about the repercussions of this). I would be hurt if she stole from me(we have not talked about the repercussions of this). I am bothered that she would do the very thing that I dislike so much(we have talked about this ad nauseum). I cannot be hurt because another individual makes a decision about their body, its their right to do whatever they want with it. I am not hurt that I did exactly what I said I would do if she did what she did(talked about ad nauseum).

Look, everyone knows that we haven't gotten along on any of these threads, but you laid it out there, so here's my question: what is really the deal with the tats? I mean aside from "the girl looks like a ho" argument, what is this obsession with bodily markings that you have such an issue with? It sounds rather like there are some deeper issues on your end that you should ask yourself about.

So far, 99% of the responses I've read have focussed on your ex and "the relationship." But this is really about you. I think only Nod got to the crux of the matter when he mentioned "control." Relationships don't have deal-breakers - nothing is black & white like that. Infidelity is a big one, no doubt, but even that isn't a deal breaker for every relationship. Many things can be repulsive: cleanliness, a handicap or injury, a perversion, a different religion, but in the end, every relationship has much more of a gray area, a give & take range, a no-fire zone, or breathing room, for lack of a better example.

Now I've been with the same person for 16 years, and I can tell you that without that elasticity, the relationship cannot endure - there are age-old proverbs about that, so there has to be some truth to it, don't you think? The fact is your relationship was too rigid, even if it was just on this one small thing about bodily markings. This one point of absolute rigidity was where everything else (all the other give & takes) halted. It was the one pin that everything else balanced on - at least that was what she believed and you confirmed.

When I read your first post, the first thing that came to mind was the scene in Ferris Bueler's Day Off, where his best friend trashes his dad's absolute favorite car. It was a symbol of what was broken in his relationship with his father. Perhaps, the tat that your ex got was that symbol. Just read what I quoted above - you considered the tat to be more of an issue than cheating or stealing (?). It sounds to me like there is an issue of control in your life that was stifling her. I'm guessing that this is a recurring theme in your relationships with other people too. I don't really know, but I'm basing that on your responses, both in this thread and others. You are extremely rigid in your absolutes and not many people consider this realistic, maybe you don't either, but you find comfort in it somehow.

Anyhow, you'll probably tear into me like you did with Mr. P. Fine. You have to live with the lifestyle you've created for yourself. But ask yourself this: why can't you reconcile your relationship with your ex?

[audio amateur]

Look, everyone knows that we haven't gotten along on any of these threads, but you laid it out there, so here's my question: what is really the deal with the tats? I mean aside from "the girl looks like a ho" argument, what is this obsession with bodily markings that you have such an issue with? It sounds rather like there are some deeper issues on your end that you should ask yourself about.

...

Anyhow, you'll probably tear into me like you did with Mr. P. Fine. You have to live with the lifestyle you've created for yourself. But ask yourself this: why can't you reconcile your relationship with your ex?

Sensible words my friend

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Look, everyone knows that we haven't gotten along on any of these threads, but you laid it out there, so here's my question: what is really the deal with the tats? I mean aside from "the girl looks like a ho" argument, what is this obsession with bodily markings that you have such an issue with? It sounds rather like there are some deeper issues on your end that you should ask yourself about.

You know nightliar, you are pretty transparent, I can see right through you. So here is my response. This is not about me at all. I got up that morning, put my pants on, and went to work just like I normally do. No surprises here. She got up, went to work, and came home with something that she was warned was a deal breaker. There is nothing psychological or controlling, I DO NOT LIKE THE WAY THEY LOOK PERIOD. It is just that simple, and there is no need to dig any deeper than that. Everyone on this planet has their pet peeves. Do you think there is something deeper psychologically going on just because somebody has a pet peeve? Are you peeve free? I do not think so, as EVERYONE has SOMETHING that will set them off. I mean, if I was your partner of 16 years your passive/aggressive nature would get on my nerves.

You have always been a failure at online pshychology. What makes you think you will be success this time?

So far, 99% of the responses I've read have focussed on your ex and "the relationship." But this is really about you. I think only Nod got to the crux of the matter when he mentioned "control." Relationships don't have deal-breakers - nothing is black & white like that. Infidelity is a big one, no doubt, but even that isn't a deal breaker for every relationship. Many things can be repulsive: cleanliness, a handicap or injury, a perversion, a different religion, but in the end, every relationship has much more of a gray area, a give & take range, a no-fire zone, or breathing room, for lack of a better example.

When somebody "controls" somebody else, it is absolute in every way. In case you forgot to read ALL of my responses(which you usually do) I plainly said that I DO NOT have a long list of pet peeves and do not do's, just one. That would make me as far from a control freak as anyone could be. Are you taking an oportunity to jab at me because of your contempt of me? If that is the case, you are nothing more than a shadow of Peabody, which earns you alot less respect for lack of originality.

Now I've been with the same person for 16 years, and I can tell you that without that elasticity, the relationship cannot endure - there are age-old proverbs about that, so there has to be some truth to it, don't you think? The fact is your relationship was too rigid, even if it was just on this one small thing about bodily markings. This one point of absolute rigidity was where everything else (all the other give & takes) halted. It was the one pin that everything else balanced on - at least that was what she believed and you confirmed.

This is asinine. You do not know the extent of my relationship, the condition it was in, or whether there were any other problems. I never mention any of that. So where did you pull this from, your bum? One issue does not make you rigid. But no issues make you weak and disconnected from your significant other. Do you just let your same person of 16 years walk all over you. Get down off that mountain, I am sure your relationship is not the pinnicle of human interaction. Any human that interacts with another human will find that there is something that human does to annoy them. If you saying you don't, then you are not human..or a nightLIAR.

When I read your first post, the first thing that came to mind was the scene in Ferris Bueler's Day Off, where his best friend trashes his dad's absolute favorite car. It was a symbol of what was broken in his relationship with his father. Perhaps, the tat that your ex got was that symbol. Just read what I quoted above - you considered the tat to be more of an issue than cheating or stealing (?). It sounds to me like there is an issue of control in your life that was stifling her. I'm guessing that this is a recurring theme in your relationships with other people too. I don't really know, but I'm basing that on your responses, both in this thread and others. You are extremely rigid in your absolutes and not many people consider this realistic, maybe you don't either, but you find comfort in it somehow.

Keep your day job PLEASE!!!! You are not even coming off as genuine. This is you taking another oportunity to cast your negative opinion about me. You know nightliar, you are a weak person, very weak. If you have to come over here and attempt to kick me when you think I am down, then you have no game weakling. I am not all THAT down, and certainly not down enough to see your sorry ass coming and going bro. Take this sorry interpretation of psycho-bable and get on your way. You are not even good at being sneaky or at best subtle.

Anyhow, you'll probably tear into me like you did with Mr. P. Fine. You have to live with the lifestyle you've created for yourself. But ask yourself this: why can't you reconcile your relationship with your ex?

Why can't you mind your own business? Why in the world would you respond to a personal post of a person you admit you don't like? Do you really think everyone is as stupid as you are?

[Mr Peabody]

Terry, I'd like to respond once more just to clarify a few things. My response here has nothing to do with discussions or whatever we may have had on other threads, about other topics. I may have been a bit inconsistent mixing humor in with more serious thoughts but make no mistake what I said about you is very sincere and not a frivolous attack. You can't even accept my opinion of you and your situation, you have to make it about something else. You as well seem to have some contempt. I for one can have a battle and move on. You and I have had civil exchanges on other threads before. If I was out to attack this wouldn't be. Like others I am not changing like the wind here, I hold to everything I posted and meant it. I believe you'd like to put a spin on what I said to make it less poinient because I believe I got pretty close to the true you.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Terry, I'd like to respond once more just to clarify a few things. My response here has nothing to do with discussions or whatever we may have had on other threads, about other topics. I may have been a bit inconsistent mixing humor in with more serious thoughts but make no mistake what I said about you is very sincere and not a frivolous attack. You can't even accept my opinion of you and your situation, you have to make it about something else. You as well seem to have some contempt. I for one can have a battle and move on. You and I have had civil exchanges on other threads before. If I was out to attack this wouldn't be. Like others I am not changing like the wind here, I hold to everything I posted and meant it. I believe you'd like to put a spin on what I said to make it less poinient because I believe I got pretty close to the true you.

Peabody,
I am sorry, but I think you are being less than honest here. Some of the comments you made you would have to personally know me to make. You don't. Its your assumptions based on our past interactions that you are using to draw your conclusions, and lets face it, you do not have anything else to base it on. We have never met face to face, never spent any time around each other, so how can you say I am "erogant(great spelling by the way) materialistic(how could you possibly know this?), heartless(ignorant assumption based on lack of exposure), and shallow(much like your assumptions).

I am sorry, I am having a tough time believing that you are being even the least bit genuine or honest. You call it spin, I call it a dig. Whatever it is, you do not known enough about be to say the things you say. So please excuse me if I think of you as disengenious and somewhat a phoney. You also have a bad habit of doing analysis, and coming to conclusions with 1/100th of the information that you need to do this logically and accurately. By the way, nobody calls me Terry, and neither should you. Thanks

[Rich-n-Texas]

Nice post Terry.

AH HA HA HA HA HA HA

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Nice post Terry.

AH HA HA HA HA HA HA

Thanks my favorite big boned brudda

[Rich-n-Texas]

What's he mean by that?

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Sir T,

I'm a big believer in that. My wife and I have been married 25 years. At about the 12 year point, things went to sh!t. One of the strangest revelations that came out through our therapy and reconcilliation process was how much of me she just didn't understand. It was a shock. Although you've done a good job of describing your disgust for tats to us, she may have heard something a bit different. You never know.

Regardless, one thing is for sure, you didn't hate her for five years. A bit of love and perhaps a lot of bodily fluids pased between you two so it is a loss of good company and perhaps more indeed. Take a breath and make sure this what you want.

Don't listen to any Leonard Cohen for at least a month.

I actually agree with you on this, especially when it comes to nuance and subtlties. But when somebody hits you on the head, or puts something in your face so plainly it brings it all back down to earth. I cannot see how you can turn "I do not like tatoo's, they are ugly and unsightly, and the cheapen your look. Having tatoos is a deal breaker, and if you ever get them, I will not be attracted to you anymore and will show you the door. Are we clear on this?" to mean anything different than that. Especially when she knows you are serious as cancer. Listen to that for five years and you cannot make it any more plain than that. In this case it is not a mars or venus thing, its a " I wanna see how far I can push this or, does he mean what he says" type of thing. You can push from the Bay Area to New York City on just about everything else under the sun, but this only gets a centimeter or less.

I completely understand that women and men can interpret the same things quite differently, which is why I made this as plain as the brown on my skin, and the baldness on my head.

While there are countless issues that we may have that discribe the venus/mars concept, this just isn't one of them.

[Mr Peabody]

You are right Terry I do base my opinion of you on our interactions here and how you respond to others here and it's very clear to see how you are. You are transparent as well as the other adjectives I used. Are you saying you are different in life than you portray here? I guess that would make you the phoney. You can think of me any way you want because I could so care less what you think.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

You are right Terry I do base my opinion of you on our interactions here and how you respond to others here and it's very clear to see how you are. You are transparent as well as the other adjectives I used. Are you saying you are different in life than you portray here? I guess that would make you the phoney. You can think of me any way you want because I could so care less what you think.

If this is your opinion, then you definately do not know me, and that basically invalidates everything you said. My life is nothing close to how you see it, as limited a time and way you see it. You are an idiot for basing it on a thread of interaction and information.
So now go fetch you some BBQ chicken and ribs, maybe some potato salad, DEFINATELY get some ice cubes to chew on, shut the hell up and join the party.

[nightflier]

I DO NOT LIKE THE WAY THEY LOOK PERIOD.

No need to shout, lil't. Or should I call you lil'terry? That kind of has a nice ring to it, don't you think lil'terry? I think I will re-christen you to lil'terry. How cute!

Now, if you just don't like the look of tats, then the bigger issue is how you can just end a long-term relationship so exactingly and then go back to mixing your little tunes in your garage as if nothin' happened, Ted Kazinsky-like. If you think that's normal, then I am certainly glad you don't live anywhere near me. Maybe I should be worried about opening up my mailbox from now on?

Look, it does not take a psychologist to figure out that the way you ended this relationship is a bit, how should I say this nicely... unusual? It also doesn't take a psychologist to figure out that you have some deep-rooted control issues. This is blatantly obvious from your posts where you won't tolerate anything that deviates from your world view. It's always lil'terry's way or no way at all.

And just so you know, I did pass some of your previous posts to a real psychologist and she said that the one thing that stood out was "your desperate desire for control of the variables," as she put it. That was several months ago, by the way, but it's interesting how this control issue keeps bubbling to the surface with you. Your girlfriend did what she did because she was challenging your control. No we don't know what kind of control you exerted over her, but the fact that she got the tat, tells us that she must have felt stifled by something. Since you won't ask her what that was, or you won't share that with us, we can only guess, and that's what we're doing.

if I was your partner of 16 years...

I don't know where you were going with this, but that is getting a little creepy. Kind of the same way you're trying to chum up to Rich and Mr. P. Maybe you're lonely, maybe something more suggestive, I don't know, but let's not even think about these kinds of creepy hypotheticals, shall we?

You have always been a failure at online pshychology. What makes you think you will be success this time?

Oh, I dunno, the fact that I really struck a nerve should clue you into the possibility that maybe I'm not too far off the mark. And I'm not so sure everyone here agrees that I'm so far off, either.

(and that's spelled psychology, lil'terry - check your own spelling before you start jabbing at other people's typos)

When somebody "controls" somebody else, it is absolute in every way.

See, this is where you're being way too black & white about this. Control in a relationship doesn't mean it is absolute in every way. Where do you get this nonsense? Anyone who's been married or in a long-term relationship knows that control can be very subtle, like walking out of the room when the diaper needs to be changed or doing only the easy dishes. Control is seldom absolute in every way, if you ask me. The fact that you are searching for praise from us for not being absolutely controlling in every way, again sounds a bit creepy, lil'terry.

You do not know the extent of my relationship, the condition it was in, or whether there were any other problems. I never mention any of that.

Yes, you've left that wide open for everyone here to speculate on. So why berate us for doing just that?

One issue does not make you rigid. But no issues make you weak and disconnected from your significant other. Do you just let your same person of 16 years walk all over you.

See this is where you really need to be careful. You are so hell-bent on demonstrating that you are not rigid, which only demonstrates that you are so absolutely rigid about the argument. It's kind of ironic, if you think about it, LOL.

Then you have this issue with apparent weakness. You know, there is a direct correlation between the concepts of weakness and control, lil'terry. See, you are so preoccupied with controlling emotions, controlling situations, controlling the direction of conversation. So while you put on a great show telling everyone how tolerant you were with your ex's habits, you are coming off as the very control freak you are trying to convince everyone here that you're not.

I am sure your relationship is not the pinnicle of human interaction.

Let me quote this back to you: "You do not know the extent of my relationship." Moreover, I'm not going to discuss my personal life here - it's none of your damn business. So just back off with the insecurity-borne deflections and let's stay focussed on your messed up situation, shall we?

(...and that's spelled pinnacle, lil'terry.)

Are you taking an oportunity to jab at me because of your contempt of me? ...This is you taking another oportunity to cast your negative opinion about me.

(ahem... that's spelled opportunity, lil'terry.)

Let's review, did my initial post on this thread sound like I was attacking you? I don't think so. I was actually trying to offer some insight, which apparently you can't handle. Again, I care very little about you or your relationship problems, I was trying to be considerate, nothing more. And why are you so insecure, lil'terry? Why are you so afraid someone might be attacking you? If I had a penny for every time I've had to say this to you: grow up, already!

...you are a weak person, very weak. If you have to come over here and attempt to kick me when you think I am down, then you have no game weakling.

You know your concern with weakness really says a lot about your control issues. I wasn't kicking you at all - that would have been petty. As I explained, I was only offering insight.

...and certainly not down enough to see your sorry ass coming and going bro.

Stop looking at my ass!

And I am not related to you, either, thank god.

Why can't you mind your own business? Why in the world would you respond to a personal post

Because you laid it out there, lil'terry. If you didn't want people to offer input, then why post? Or was it because you wanted everyone to praise the control you thought you exhibited over your issue? To stroke your ego, so to speak.

Do you really think everyone is as stupid as you are?

I don't know about anyone else's stupidity. I certainly don't consider myself stupid - I don't really ask myself the question.

But you certainly aren't coming off as the sharpest tool in the shed, lil'terry.

And really, I would like to know: why did you start this thread? Can you answer that question for us, lil'terry?

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

No need to shout, lil't. Or should I call you lil'terry? That kind of has a nice ring to it, don't you think lil'terry? I think I will re-christen you to lil'terry. How cute!

You will be known as the lil b!tch, how about that?

Now, if you just don't like the look of tats, then the bigger issue is how you can just end a long-term relationship so exactingly and then go back to mixing your little tunes in your garage as if nothin' happened, Ted Kazinsky-like. If you think that's normal, then I am certainly glad you don't live anywhere near me. Maybe I should be worried about opening up my mailbox from now on?

Why would I want to live where weak knee'd punks live? Maybe I know how to move on, rather than sitting around crying and complaining. I do not dwell on what I cannot change. You on the other hand are probably one of those panty wasted little girly guys that sit and cry endlessly over what was.

Look, it does not take a psychologist to figure out that the way you ended this relationship is a bit, how should I say this nicely... unusual? It also doesn't take a psychologist to figure out that you have some deep-rooted control issues. This is blatantly obvious from your posts where you won't tolerate anything that deviates from your world view. It's always lil'terry's way or no way at all.

Take you little digs and shove them up your ass little boy. People that have control issues have long laundry lists of don'ts, and try to control every faucet of another persons life subtly or forcefully. That is far from the truth, and one issue does not make you a control freak. Go screw yourself, and stop trying to make something out of nothing. I never gave you enough information about my ENTIRE life for you to come to these conclusions. You sure do enjoy making sh!t up don't cha little b!tch?

And just so you know, I did pass some of your previous posts to a real psychologist and she said that the one thing that stood out was "your desperate desire for control of the variables," as she put it.

Right nighliar, sure she did. Lie, lie, lie. You keep telling lies like this, and your fat long nose will end up in Paris.

That was several months ago, by the way, but it's interesting how this control issue keeps bubbling to the surface with you. Your girlfriend did what she did because she was challenging your control. No we don't know what kind of control you exerted over her, but the fact that she got the tat, tells us that she must have felt stifled by something. Since you won't ask her what that was, or you won't share that with us, we can only guess, and that's what we're doing.

So you know exactly why my ex did what she did? Right, you know everything huh?

Its interesting how you can just invent all of these theories with a little more than a scant bit of information. Come on nightliar, you have to have FAR more information than what you see on this board to come to the conclusions that you do. Do you remember how wrong you were about the Bluray debate we had. That was because your information(or lack of it) was born out of complete ignorance, and as I can see, you have done nothing to remedy your ignorance. You have just moved on to a new topic. You are like an annoying neighborhood dog, constantly barking, but too wimpy to even bare his teeth.

I don't know where you were going with this, but that is getting a little creepy. Kind of the same way you're trying to chum up to Rich and Mr. P. Maybe you're lonely, maybe something more suggestive, I don't know, but let's not even think about these kinds of creepy hypotheticals, shall we?

Nobody was more creeped out about writing that than I was. The thought of it is enough to make me sick to my stomach. Thank God its not a reality, and there is no chance of it. There is no way I could stand to be around such a wimpy panty wasted little girly type.

Oh, I dunno, the fact that I really struck a nerve should clue you into the possibility that maybe I'm not too far off the mark. And I'm not so sure everyone here agrees that I'm so far off, either.

Or maybe you were so far off the mark it was laughable. Much like the Bluray players going down on a ship, and all Bluray players price increase because of that. You know so little about my business, so little that it is not even funny. So you THINK you are right, and we all know that thinking is not your strong suit.

(and that's spelled psychology, lil'terry - check your own spelling before you start jabbing at other people's typos)

I do not think anyone spelling is the topic of this thread. You have a terrible problem staying on topic don't you little b!tch?

See, this is where you're being way too black & white about this. Control in a relationship doesn't mean it is absolute in every way. Where do you get this nonsense? Anyone who's been married or in a long-term relationship knows that control can be very subtle, like walking out of the room when the diaper needs to be changed or doing only the easy dishes. Control is seldom absolute in every way, if you ask me. The fact that you are searching for praise from us for not being absolutely controlling in every way, again sounds a bit creepy, lil'terry.

You are probably too stupid to know the difference between asking for an opinion, and looking for praise. How in the hell does one look for praise in this stupid? When someone says they have ONE pet peeve, that is not control. A person with control issues controls everything, subtly or not.

So is asking a person to lower the toilet seat when they are finished an issue of control?
Is telling somebody to turn down the hometheater system IN THEIR OWN HOUSE an issue of control?

I supposed that Sticks example of the music he cannot listen to is a issue of control as well.

Nightliar, your bullsh!t is stinking this joint up.

Yes, you've left that wide open for everyone here to speculate on. So why berate us for doing just that?

Speculation is one thing, Facts are another. You draw conclusions off of fact, not speculation. At least normal folks do. You have made a career out of creating conclusions from speculation, which makes you less than normal. Am I berating you, or just telling you what you really are?

See this is where you really need to be careful. You are so hell-bent on demonstrating that you are not rigid, which only demonstrates that you are so absolutely rigid about the argument. It's kind of ironic, if you think about it, LOL.

This is twisted logic from a twisted mind.

Then you have this issue with apparent weakness. You know, there is a direct correlation between the concepts of weakness and control, lil'terry. See, you are so preoccupied with controlling emotions, controlling situations, controlling the direction of conversation. So while you put on a great show telling everyone how tolerant you were with your ex's habits, you are coming off as the very control freak you are trying to convince everyone here that you're not.

You do not know enough about my life to come to this conclusion. Did you pull this out of your azzhole? Its a wonder you can sit down. One post and you know all about me. Give me a break lil b!tch.

Let me quote this back to you: "You do not know the extent of my relationship." Moreover, I'm not going to discuss my personal life here - it's none of your damn business. So just back off with the insecurity-borne deflections and let's stay focussed on your messed up situation, shall we?

(...and that's spelled pinnacle, lil'terry.)

I do not believe I was analyzing your relationship. I would rather slide down a bannister of razor blades than know anymore about you than I already do. You are a girl in a man's skin, and that is all I want to know of you.

(ahem... that's spelled opportunity, lil'terry.)

Great, the little b!tch can spell. I bet your wife made you learn.

Let's review, did my initial post on this thread sound like I was attacking you? I don't think so. I was actually trying to offer some insight, which apparently you can't handle. Again, I care very little about you or your relationship problems, I was trying to be considerate, nothing more. And why are you so insecure, lil'terry? Why are you so afraid someone might be attacking you? If I had a penny for every time I've had to say this to you: grow up, already!

Some insight? LOL. You are alot like Bush, tell lies and then you actually believe them yourself. If you care very little about my relationship problems, then why are you here posting again?

Trying to be considerate? Your kidding right? You were being an annoying little azzhole, which you excel at.

Your insight was about as helpful as a fat person eating a donut. I do not need your insight. I have lived my life just fine without your stupid tired advise.

You know your concern with weakness really says a lot about your control issues. I wasn't kicking you at all - that would have been petty. As I explained, I was only offering insight.

You are petty. That is why you are back here trying to kick again. Sorry, didn't work last time, and won't work this time. YOu need to mind your own business liar. You are not in a position to pass judgement, give advice, or draw any educated conclusions on anyone situation but your own. You do not know enough, and nobody asked you for anything. You have said what you have to say, now take your sorry azz back to weakville where you came from.

Stop looking at my ass!

I can't help it, you are one big ass!

And I am not related to you, either, thank god.

Yes, thank God. If you were, I would never tell anyone. I would be embarrased by the fact that you look like a man, but act like a woman.

Because you laid it out there, lil'terry. If you didn't want people to offer input, then why post? Or was it because you wanted everyone to praise the control you thought you exhibited over your issue? To stroke your ego, so to speak.

I wanted other constructive opinions, not a bunch of uneducated conclusions and analysis.

I guess if you just keep repeating this control ****, pretty soon it will stick huh?. Not a chance ***** boy. Put your hands back in Bruno's back pocket, and walk away

I don't know about anyone else's stupidity. I certainly don't consider myself stupid - I don't really ask myself the question.

You may not consider yourself stupid, but I do.

But you certainly aren't coming off as the sharpest tool in the shed, lil'terry.

Maybe I am not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I am still far sharper than you are on your best day. Sharp enough to see right through this bull****, and know your intentions as they really are.

And really, I would like to know: why did you start this thread? Can you answer that question for us, lil'terry?

If you cannot figure that out by now, then you are by far the dumbest person ever to participate on this forum. I would consider you a hair more retarded than pixie even.

Nightliar; I do not want your advise, your opinion, your conclusions. As wrong as you were about Bluray, I cannot see how your stupid and uneducated opinions and conclusions would be helpful in the least. Take your sorry ass back to your perfect relationship, and you are the most perfect person in the world(that would be fantasy land). If I wanted your opinion, I would have asked your man for it.

[GMichael]

Is THIS what you guys consider a party? Where are the half neck'd ladies? Where's all the beer and wine? Where's the food. And for heaven sakes, where's all the laughter?

Fine! You guys go ahead. Cyber bash each other's heads in. I'm going back to the water cooler! (leaves the room grumbling to himself and kicking chairs as he goes)

[noddin0ff]

Oh, I'll probably burn in hell for this. I feel like the ghost of lex just wafted through the room. Since this thread's already way out of control, I guess I've got little to lose by pushing it over the edge and setting fire to the remains.

You will be known as the lil b!tch,

[derogatory remark targeting women]

You on the other hand are probably one of those panty wasted little girly guys that sit and cry endlessly over what was.

[derogatory remark targeting women]

There is no way I could stand to be around such a wimpy panty wasted little girly type.

[derogatory remark targeting women]

You are a girl in a man's skin, and that is all I want to know of you.

[derogatory remark targeting women]

Great, the little b!tch can spell. I bet your wife made you learn.

[derogatory remark targeting women]

Yes, thank God. If you were, I would never tell anyone. I would be embarrased by the fact that you look like a man, but act like a woman.

[derogatory remark targeting women]

When I brought up 'control', I thought I made it pretty clear that it wasn't about a need to control or even about being particularly controlling. It's just that relationships get set up in ways that can give control to one partner or the other. My wife is happy that I control the finances and the kitchen, I'm happy she controls the laundry. It just happens.
But, one can easily image that a failure to regard one gender as an equal partner would make it more likely that control situations would form more readily. I was already concerned, T, that you described your girlfriend mostly in the same context as your children. Now that you've let lose a stream of gender specific put downs...

You asked what we all thought about terminating your 5-year relationship over tattoos. If it was a good relationship, I think it was a shame.

[nightflier]

I do not want your advise, your opinion, your conclusions. ... I cannot see how your stupid and uneducated opinions and conclusions would be helpful in the least....If I wanted your opinion, I would have asked your man for it.

Asked my man for it? Another innuendo? You know with all the sexist comments and the focus on people's asses, I'm really starting to think you have some gender issues yourself. Been spending a bit too much time "recording" in your closet? Me transparent? Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black. You're coming undone in a very personal way, and it's really not pretty. You've got issues, real big issues, I'd quit this post if I were you before you really loose control....

And the fact that you posted your very personal business here, makes it everybody's business. If you didn't want my opinions, Nod's opinions, Kex' opinions, Mr. Peabody's opinions, or the opinions of anyone else you don't agree with, then maybe you should be posting this on a counselling website and not here. For the last time, lil'terry: grow up already.