Quote Originally Posted by Resident Loser
Numero uno...your obfuscatory rhetoric notwithstanding...did I ever say Kerry could not exercise HIS freedom of speech? NO! Your continued attempt at clouding the issue either means you don't understand OR you have nowhere to go and rely on a style of Clintonian grammatical usage.

Again, my objection was, and still is, his use of a demeaning term and the implication of connection with that "vast right-wing conspiracy"...Now, you can either address THAT issue or go prattle on about "yelling fire in a theater"...
As I said before, you were stating that Kerry has some kind of contempt for free speech because of his comments. Sorry, but calling people who were obviously trying to disrupt his rally "goons" hardly shows disregard for free speech. If anything, it's a rather vigorous exercise of those rights. It's not like Kerry called in the National Guard and had the Bush supporters shackled and thrown into the basement.

Use of a demeaning term? Yes, and if you're a Bush supporter drawing attention to yourself at a Kerry rally, that shouldn't be unexpected. Implication to "vast right-wing conspiracy"? That's quite a stretch, and not exactly a logical one at that.

Quote Originally Posted by Resident Loser
Secondly, another point you choose to ignore, was Kerry's affair closed or open to all in order to convince swing voters?...you pays yer money and you takes yer chances...I still await a response on that one.
It was an open event and everybody had their say. I'm not the one who has a problem with that. And as I keep pointing out to you, where in ANY of Kerry's other campaign stops does he preselect the audience by using loyalty pledges? So if Kerry resorted to taking oaths of his audience before letting them thru the door, you wouldn't have a problem with that. If Kerry hates free speech as you say he does, then wouldn't he resort to more draconian tactics to ensure that speech is not free at his gatherings?

Quote Originally Posted by Resident Loser
Right, wrong or indifferent, Cheney's method is his method. You don't like it. So, I assume that is THE reason you're not voting for him in November...you know going in what it's about and after all, as you pointed out, he's "...preaching to the choir..." and the church doors are to be closed! BTW, how many invitation-only $1000 rubber-chicken dinners are YOU(or I, for that matter) going to attend?
Like I said, you can go back and forth on both sides and find examples of preselecting a friendly crowd with each campaign. I just find the very idea of a loyalty oath as precondition to attend a campaign rally plain idiotic on many fronts.

Quote Originally Posted by Resident Loser
Now with regard to the Second Amendment/NRA thing...Registration is the first baby-step to confiscation...in order to round 'em on up, you hafta' know who's got 'em...no slippery slope there. Our government is going about it in a more genteel and roundabout way...not just bustin' in and searching the premises, why do you think THAT is? Could it be because of that darned Second Amendment?
Oh brother, and I guess that boogey man is coming to steal our souls too. Sorry, but registration to confiscation is a pretty far reaching connection and another slippery slope. I mean, I register my car every year, and no one has come busting down my door or gone about trying to confiscate it.