Spidey BluRay sales disapointing.

[pixelthis]

While I agree downloads will take over "hard" formats one day, we are clearly not there yet.

You do understand that VOD (cable VOD) in it's current state is limited in qaulity due to bandwidth, right? Without going into all the specs since Sir T. has already stated them, Cable VOD and Internet VOD are both subject to bandwidth limitations. More channels does not equal greater bandwidth. Everything goes down the same "pipe" and the pipe is only so big. I am betting that will change in the future. I am certain of it. How long? That's the big question. "Hard" formats like DVDs, CDs, Cassettes, etc will all be a thing of the past one day but technology has to catch up. That will take some time.

You might go back and read Sir T's post again. I think you are letting your anger and dislike of Sir T get in the way of the facts.

What "facts"?
Sir t (for talks a lot?) says that 1080p is the "new standard".
While this "standard " is in how many homes? The first 1080p sets couldnt even input 1080p, only the ones from this year can.
Sure if you have a 1080p 24fps set Blu ray is spectacular, but my set is 720p (1366 /766)
and a lot of people are still buying 720p sets.
1080p has a long way to go before becoming mainstream, a long way.
And that is the only advantage that the disc formats have over VOD.
again I dont have the specs, but a standard fiber optic system has plenty, whenever I watch HD over this system its totally as good as broadcast HD, sometimes better.
And if you think that VOD is "years away" then you are dreaming.
And Blu and hddvd are far from perfect, While watching one today the picture was great, sure, but it wont look as good on my or most other peoples sets.
If others at Sony are thinking like sir talky they are very delusional, the real world is nothing like Sir T's "facts" you talk about.
Even HDTV only has 50% market penetration! And how many of these can enjoy the full potential of Blue ray.
And the player is slow, glacier slow, and while "searching" the word "earching" was on the display.
This is a computer based device, its basically a computer, much more so than even DVD,
WHILE using it the fragility of the operation was apparrent.
The only thing I was saying was that what sir talkys view of the world is somewhat rosey,
just like your typical company shill.
But the truth is that it will take years to even approach the market penetration of DVD,
all the while cable and telephone companies are laying cable, fiber-optic cable.
the REAL world is one where most dont even have a need for a high def disc playback system, half have SD TV, and most are happy with their DVD players.
I have been involved in this stuff for decades, and I can tell ya, quality is way down the list of requirements for most consumers, its just not as important as sir t would have you beleive, not to the mass market, anyway.
Did quality sell DVD ? Nah, as a matter of fact a lot of rental stores were set to snub it pretty much like they did laserdisc, they didnt want to obsolete their inventory.
What changed their minds? DIVX.
Not the current internet file format for dling movies, but the play once lawyer inspired
scheme that was born at the birth of DVD.
This would have killed the video rental business, they took it very seriously , and only
started stocking DVD when DIVX players hit the market.
In fact, DIVX probably was some help in making DVD more than just a smaller version of laserdisc.
My one point, and its major, is that we live in a different world, and the dinosaurs of that world, the hugh electronics companies, dont seem to understand that.
They are wasting time with a silly "format war", and for what?
I paid 400 bucks for a 800 mb harddrive a decade ago, saw one today , 750 GIGABYTES, for 265 bucks. The shelves were stocked with all kinds of digital portable storage devices. The world is changing, and fast.
But HT and audiophile types are a one track bunch, quality of picture and sound is all they care about, god bless em, and they pursue it usually without paying much attention to whats going on around them.
The near future wont be like the near past, with one video format (DVD) dominating the landscape, hard copy media is going to become a smaller and smaller piece of the pie.
Weather sir whatever likes it or not

[JSE]

What "facts"?
Sir t (for talks a lot?) says that 1080p is the "new standard".
While this "standard " is in how many homes? The first 1080p sets couldnt even input 1080p, only the ones from this year can.
Sure if you have a 1080p 24fps set Blu ray is spectacular, but my set is 720p (1366 /766)
and a lot of people are still buying 720p sets.
1080p has a long way to go before becoming mainstream, a long way.
And that is the only advantage that the disc formats have over VOD.
again I dont have the specs, but a standard fiber optic system has plenty, whenever I watch HD over this system its totally as good as broadcast HD, sometimes better.
And if you think that VOD is "years away" then you are dreaming.
And Blu and hddvd are far from perfect, While watching one today the picture was great, sure, but it wont look as good on my or most other peoples sets.
If others at Sony are thinking like sir talky they are very delusional, the real world is nothing like Sir T's "facts" you talk about.
Even HDTV only has 50% market penetration! And how many of these can enjoy the full potential of Blue ray.
And the player is slow, glacier slow, and while "searching" the word "earching" was on the display.
This is a computer based device, its basically a computer, much more so than even DVD,
WHILE using it the fragility of the operation was apparrent.
The only thing I was saying was that what sir talkys view of the world is somewhat rosey,
just like your typical company shill.
But the truth is that it will take years to even approach the market penetration of DVD,
all the while cable and telephone companies are laying cable, fiber-optic cable.
the REAL world is one where most dont even have a need for a high def disc playback system, half have SD TV, and most are happy with their DVD players.
I have been involved in this stuff for decades, and I can tell ya, quality is way down the list of requirements for most consumers, its just not as important as sir t would have you beleive, not to the mass market, anyway.
Did quality sell DVD ? Nah, as a matter of fact a lot of rental stores were set to snub it pretty much like they did laserdisc, they didnt want to obsolete their inventory.
What changed their minds? DIVX.
Not the current internet file format for dling movies, but the play once lawyer inspired
scheme that was born at the birth of DVD.
This would have killed the video rental business, they took it very seriously , and only
started stocking DVD when DIVX players hit the market.
In fact, DIVX probably was some help in making DVD more than just a smaller version of laserdisc.
My one point, and its major, is that we live in a different world, and the dinosaurs of that world, the hugh electronics companies, dont seem to understand that.
They are wasting time with a silly "format war", and for what?
I paid 400 bucks for a 800 mb harddrive a decade ago, saw one today , 750 GIGABYTES, for 265 bucks. The shelves were stocked with all kinds of digital portable storage devices. The world is changing, and fast.
But HT and audiophile types are a one track bunch, quality of picture and sound is all they care about, god bless em, and they pursue it usually without paying much attention to whats going on around them.
The near future wont be like the near past, with one video format (DVD) dominating the landscape, hard copy media is going to become a smaller and smaller piece of the pie.
Weather sir whatever likes it or not

Do you have a learning disability?

[GMichael]

Do you have a learning disability?

Great! Thanks. There goes another keyboard.

[JSE]

Great! Thanks. There goes another keyboard.

Sorry.