Quote Originally Posted by Groundbeef
Ok, heres why that is a lame arguement. During the buildup Sony portrayed the PS3 as the end-all console of consoles. I think only the Second Coming of Jesus himself could have edged out the excitement that Sony was dishing out. Now, add to the hype an EXTRA 8 months development time. Now remember, we were promised that this machine would BLOW the 360 out of the water.

So guess what? The hype didn't match up. Even though developers had an EXTRA 8 months developent time, they still cant match the 360 in graphics OR gameplay. That is downright stupid.

I never said that the PS3 has hit its tech limits. But they sure shot themselves in the foot with this. Who wants to buy the "Next Gen Console" and then be told by the salesman...."Just wait TILL NEXT YEAR FOR THE REALLY GOOD GAMES!!!".... In essence you are suggesting that the PS3 will forever be behind the 360.

And as for "Technical Advantage", depends on what tech nerd you are quoteing. The cell my be a hardier processer, but the badwidth, and the level of RAM is 1/2 that of the 360. In essence it has a bigger engine, and is hobbled with a 2 gear transmission. If you want to argue this line, we had better start another thread.

MS delivered on the promise of HD games, enhanced online content, and solid gameplay. They didn't engage in trash talk like the Sony Managment team. Yes they had some supply issues, and some hardware issues, but that was resolved.
And again you're making the comparison of the Xbox 360, as it is right now with a one-year head start versus the PS3, which has had a rocky launch. How did the Xbox 360 look at launch? Pretty shaky as well from my recollection. As I said before, a lot of the original Xbox games also didn't look any better than the PS2 games at launch. The capabilities of that platform did not get highlighted until later. How will things shake out a year from now? We'll know better at that point, especially since past precedence suggests that these game consoles take about two years before sales start to hit their stride.

Quote Originally Posted by Groundbeef
You ought to read the Wall Street Journal today. Has a really interesting article on Motorolla getting killed and having to revise its profit #'s. Seems the Razar (PS2) is a HUGE seller. So big in fact that Motorolla (Sony) cant get it customers to buy its new phone Krazar (PS3). Margins are down, and they are stuck with a bunch of customers that see no need to buy the fancy new phone (console). Sucks to be them.
Completely different market because in the cell phone market Motorola only makes money by continuing to sell hardware. Game consoles, as you've pointed out repeatedly, are loss leaders on the hardware side with the profits coming from software and licensing. With 100 million+ PS2 owners, Sony's still making money off of that platform because games are still being produced and sold. Once Motorola sells someone a cell phone, they don't get much more revenue from that customer until they buy another phone.

Quote Originally Posted by Groundbeef
Cool did you buy one? They are even coming with a free game!
If you buy me a HDTV first, I'll consider it.