Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
If you have never owned one, then how can you possibly comment on the picture quality? This means that all of your comments and comparisons are born out of complete ignorance, and lack of experience. Hardly credible in anyone's book. Your other comments are to justify your ignorance, and its usually better to not comment, than to put your ignorance out there.
OH PLEASE, I spent three years learning about CRT tech as well as tv electronics,
and like to think I HAVE KEPT UP a little at least.
You know what people like about the new panels and projectors?
THE BRIGHTNESS.
This is very important to a lot of people, including me.
You're comments about black level being a shade of gray in lcd panels is disingenious
at best, blacks are a tad washed out when everythings turned up for room lighting, but
this is why they have controls to adjust these levels when you dont need that much illumination. Black level is quite good under low light conditions, with teh backlight down
The "perfect" black level people talk about in CRT displays comes at a high price.
Dimness, burn in , and awkward size and weight, and a short lifespan.
And I have had several devices cositing several thousand dollars BTY.
my first HDTV was a 47in RPTV, in spite of an almost obsessive dilligence in keeping static images off of the screen and the contrast down to 50, burn in still occured.
And you can only make a phosper dot so small, these "bleed" over from illuminated pixels
to unlit ones, smaller pixels wont last as long (less phosper) etc.
I know plenty about CRT, the 30,000 volts needed to drive one, their relative fragility,
How much fun it is turning the yoke when its on, etc.
That is why I dont have one, that is why MOST dont have one




If you have never purchased anything above $1000, then how do you know you get 95% of the performance of a above $1000 from a below $1000 product? This is nothing more than ignorant statements from an ignorant person. You don't know, so you just keep pulling these abstract numbers out of your a$$. You do this over and over, and its getting boring.
I'm sorry, I keep forgetting that your inability to understand abstracts borders on autistic.
No one ever knows when the law of diminshing returns kicks in, but it does
do so.
And yes I have bought several devices costing well over a grand, allow for inflation and most cost that much.
AND most were CRT based of course.
My simple set goes at least 90% of the way, and exceeds your stuff in some areas,
that these areas are in your words" unimportant" is convienent



How do you know, you have never owned a front projection CRT, you haven't even owned a front projection digital projector. More ignorance, and no fact. There is no way you can say resolution or true picture quality, that only comes with experience with the product, not just some guesses. There is no LCD, DLP, or ILA based consumer projector that can do 2000x2500 lines of information, that is a fact. Only professional projectors that cost over $60,000-$100,000 poses that kind of resolution. Digital projectors look digital because they sample and hold, rather than creating a sliver of blackness between frames just like theater projectors do, and camera do as well. So they can never exibit "true" picture quality until they do what the source does, create lines of blacks between frames.

WHAT a copout, I have never owned a Rousch Porsch either, but I can find the fuel in jection system, brakes, etc quite handily.
A front projector is just an adapted RPTV, uses three tubes in primary colors to produce a color picture, hardly rocket science.
The last real improvement was 9" tubes, then most saw the writing on the wall,
mainly that CRT, which were never intended to be projection devices could never compete with mercury bulbs, which were designed to put out decent light



You are wrong again. Joe Kane(remember him, you like to quote him at your convience) says the minimum acceptable contrast ratio for any display device is at least 20,000:1. That would put it in the same ballpark as professional projectors and cameras. 1000:1 is perfectly acceptable to a person trying to justify his cheapness, and his compromise for a lesser product that does not meet even minimal standards. SMPTE also uses the same standards as Joe Kane, so to say there is no "standard" is just your ignorance, and just shows that quality is not what you are after, only light output is your standard.
Good old joe, I BOUGHT MY SET A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, 1,000/'1 was considered quite good for an LCD, although a compromise.
Sets these days are capable of much more, but for serious watching I turn down the light on the set and contrast is improved a great deal.
As for 20,000 to one contrast there are some higher end sets now that can acheive at least 10,000


You opened the door idiot, and I walked through. If you use Joe Kane for one thing, you have to use him for all things. What you cannot do is parse his information to suit your argument. That is what a true shyster is, a little lying cheat. You misquote him, twist his words, and quite frankly I do not think you do it purposely, but because you have no idea how to vet the information you read. When you make the claim you have forgotten more than I will ever know, make sure you have not forgotten the basics and the detail that supports the basics, which it appears you have.
I quote joe kane from widescreen review, and what he says about resolution and picture q
contradicts almost everything you have to say so I WOULD BE CAREFULL QUOTING HIM


What a stupid statement from a stupid person
mY FAULT, THATS WHAT YOU GET TRYING TO TALK DOWN TO A NINNY WHO DOESNT EVEN UNDERSTAND the difference between a test bench and real world conditions.
like the riverboat pilot SAMUEL CLEMENS said, "their are lies, damn lies, and statistics".
the same could be said of test bench results.
YOU KNOW ENOUGH, YOU CAN GET TEST GEAR TO JUMP THROUGH ALL KINDS OF HOOPS.
The key question is real world performance, ease of use and availability.
I have always tried to emphazise affordable , reliable, well performing gear that will allow the average person to experience the joy of this hobby.
The stuff you have(or claim to have) has no relevance in the real world.
Produce gear with those specs that the average person can use and purchase in the real world and you might have something, right now you have an expensive toy