Shhhhh Don't Tell Pix....Vizio is coming out with...A PLASMA!!!!

[jrhymeammo]

Okay, so I'm not geeking out with some 60" projector watching Williams Shatner in spandex, but I find my Vizio 32 LCD to be quite good.

So, besides Vizio and their dying breads, I'm really starting to get annoyed by AR's 3+ Stooges dissing on Pix and his ignorance, by starting dedicated threads... This is just retarded. Red chicklets to all.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Okay, so I'm not geeking out with some 60" projector watching Williams Shatner in spandex, but I find my Vizio 32 LCD to be quite good.

So, besides Vizio and their dying breads, I'm really starting to get annoyed by AR's 3+ Stooges dissing on Pix and his ignorance, by starting dedicated threads... This is just retarded. Red chicklets to all.

I am not one to argue with any respected member of this board, but Pix has brought this on himself. If he did not wallow in his ignorance, there would be no need to diss him. He INSISTS he is correct, and we are all just mortal monkeys without a bit of A/V knowledge. Since this is not true, it becomes necessary to explain it to him. If he would just acknowledge that he does not know his butthole from a cave or tunnel, he would just be another person here trying to learn something. That is not the position he is taking, so he get's the pie's thrown at him. He is the one that choses his destiny here, not us. He has chosen combative, and we are giving him exactly what he deserves for that choice.

Its the 6 stooges by the way. We doubled up LOL.

[Ajani]

I am not one to argue with any respected member of this board, but Pix has brought this on himself. If he did not wallow in his ignorance, there would be no need to diss him. He INSISTS he is correct, and we are all just mortal monkeys without a bit of A/V knowledge. Since this is not true, it becomes necessary to explain it to him. If he would just acknowledge that he does not know his butthole from a cave or tunnel, he would just be another person here trying to learn something. That is not the position he is taking, so he get's the pie's thrown at him. He is the one that choses his destiny here, not us. He has chosen combative, and we are giving him exactly what he deserves for that choice.

Its the 6 stooges by the way. We doubled up LOL.

Undoubtedly Pix’s insistence on being stubborn has led to this situation, but attacking Pix seems about as fair as beating up the retarded kid in the playground.

Also, keep in mind that Pix usually has some sort of a point, even if he usually draws the wrong conclusions. Take for example the debate about whether tweeters or woofers use more power:

I’ll be the first to admit that I have only basic knowledge of physics and electronics, but following that thread it seemed clear to me that Pix was referring to continuous power and everyone else was talking about peak power. So Pix was essentially arguing that during say, a 5 minute song, the tweeter would be constantly employed and drawing on average 30 watts of power for the entire 5 minutes. The woofer might be employed for only 30 seconds total during that song and draw on average 90 watts of power. So in reality the tweeter used more power during that 5 minute song. So up to that point Pix was correct, but from there he drew the conclusion that you should use a more powerful amp to drive a tweeter than a woofer. That conclusion is wrong and contradicts generally accepted audio knowledge. Why? Using the same example: any 50 watt amp should be able to deliver a continuous 30 watts (as long as it has proper ventilation), however that amp will likely clip if it tries to deliver 90 watts (even if for only 30 seconds).

So yeah, Pix brings this on himself, but that doesn’t mean we have to encourage him.

[bobsticks]

Okay, so I'm not geeking out with some 60" projector watching Williams Shatner in spandex, but I find my Vizio 32 LCD to be quite good.

So, besides Vizio and their dying breads, I'm really starting to get annoyed by AR's 3+ Stooges dissing on Pix and his ignorance, by starting dedicated threads... This is just retarded. Red chicklets to all.

Oh Jesus H. Jay, don't get yer panties in a bunch.

WELL, I really feel sorry for him, he sooooo wants to be me.
Instead of the burnt out, impotent, useless , lice ridden ex hippy that doesnt even know his cd changer plays SACD because he cant understabd the instructions,
that he is.
Hes' like cheech marin without the starlets and money

The above is a quote from our resident villein. Pretty sure he can defend himself without you getting all bougie-assed, saccharine goody-goody on everyone else. I don't have any problem with Pix and even agree form time to time with his observations, but I know what he's about. His threads usually go south by the third or fourth post 'cause he'll get all snarky with somebody.

He's like the Todd Fedoruk of audio, he's an instigator. Every team needs one.

K.I.M.

[Luvin Da Blues]

He's like the Todd Fedoruk of audio, he's an instigator. Every team needs one.

Todd played his junior years with my local team the Kelowna Rockets. Didn't really care for him then either.

can you spell...GOON

[Groundbeef]

Todd played his junior years with my local team the Kelowna Rockets. Didn't really care for him then either.

can you spell...GOON

GOON

Now can I have a green chicklet? Its been months without one, and I'm feeling a bit ignored. Nevermind that I haven't been passing them out BECAUSE THE F*CKING GUN IS JAMMED!!!!

[GMichael]

GOON

Now can I have a green chicklet? Its been months without one, and I'm feeling a bit ignored. Nevermind that I haven't been passing them out BECAUSE THE F*CKING GUN IS JAMMED!!!!

Sorry,

Still jammed in your direction. I can fire at strangers though.

[JohnMichael]

Sorry,

Still jammed in your direction. I can fire at strangers though.

You could try to fire one my way because I feel like we have become strangers. Was it something I said?

[PAT.P]

[GMichael]

You could try to fire one my way because I feel like we have become strangers. Was it something I said?

Fired one off at ya buddy. You and me strangers? Never.

[Luvin Da Blues]

GOON

Now can I have a green chicklet? Its been months without one, and I'm feeling a bit ignored. Nevermind that I haven't been passing them out BECAUSE THE F*CKING GUN IS JAMMED!!!!

I'd give ya one GB but my slingshot is broken to.

[Duds]

Yeah, and Pix gets his ass kicked in these forums like Fridge does on the ice!!!

Todd played his junior years with my local team the Kelowna Rockets. Didn't really care for him then either.

can you spell...GOON

[Duds]

This entire time I has no idea Pix owned a hunk of sh*t Vizio. man, what a clown.

[pixelthis]

This entire time I has no idea Pix owned a hunk of sh*t Vizio. man, what a clown.

You oughta know about clowns, since you come from a circus family.
And you might want to wait for my response before you say I "got my ass beat"
since its obvious you dont know a frikin thing about the subject at hand, otherwise you'd keep your 11 year old mouth shut

[GMichael]

I'm really starting to get annoyed by AR's 3+ Stooges dissing on Pix and his ignorance, by starting dedicated threads... This is just retarded. Red chicklets to all.

Get over yourself. If you don't like reading our banter with Pix then don't read our posts. He knows that most of us are just playing with him and he plays right back.

[pixelthis]

Okay, so I'm not geeking out with some 60" projector watching Williams Shatner in spandex, but I find my Vizio 32 LCD to be quite good.

So, besides Vizio and their dying breads, I'm really starting to get annoyed by AR's 3+ Stooges dissing on Pix and his ignorance, by starting dedicated threads... This is just retarded. Red chicklets to all.

well, GEE, thanks for your "help" but I need to explain something, I have been doing this for 40 odd years now.
I built a three stage solid state amp when I WAS 17, (using F.E.T. transistors)
Probably couldnt do it today without a kit, but I DID do it.
Put it on top of an old tube fisher fm tuner, sounded quite good.
And did this before you were a wet spot on your mamas undies.
Why do I REFUSE TO ADMIT that I am wrong? Because most of the time
I'M not.
And I am not going to lie and say that something I learned in electronics class is "wrong"
just to win the favor of a bunch on this site that really are a lot more clueless than they think?
NOPE, because I am a GROWNUP.
And an astute observer of human nature, thanks to a career in law enforcement,
started when dyslexia made it increasingly more complicated to compete in electronics.
For instance why do you think GM is always there with the smartass remark?
And always turns a thread away from the subject, to something silly as hell?
Because his knowledge of most subjects is rather , ah, "slim" to put it politely?
Why is sir talky so immature? Because hes a young man impersonating either someone he made up or a real person, maybe a relative, but if he is out of college
yet it would surprize me, if he werent out of high school it would'nt.
I get "into trouble" trying to challenge some people on this board, my bad , they dont have any gray matter to challenge, especially "groundgeek" who has a picture of his
brains as an avatar.
But I must admit that the viciousness of some attacks is rather off putting sometimes,
but again I am a grownup and rather abrasive myself sometimes, a little heat is something I AM TOO USED TO.
Did you know that a plasma burns LESS energy than a LCD? YEP!
At least that is what the clueless wooch says. AND HES' the ONLY one who says it,
its common knowledge that a plasma tv is an energy hog, sometimes burning as much as
thirty times as much energy as an LCD in a year.
But I am "stubborn" because I refuse to admit hes "right" when what he says contradicts
EVERY source you can find on the subject.
And WHEN I say plasma is "dead", well, thats silly.
But there was a photo in the paper today of Sonys new toy, an 11" OLED television,
prices are expected to drop and size to rise, it wont take three years for this form factor to become dominant.
And that should make the snobs on this board happy, they keep citing "black level"
as one of the "great" things about plasma, when the difference between LCD and plasma is slight at best, and glare from plasma negates a lot of that.
Well, they should love OLED, the black level is PERFECT.
And plasma sales are already dropping, considering how long it took a LCD panel to go from 2,000 for 15" TO 550$ for a 32" , and considering that OLED is easier to make,
not only is plasma "DEAD", LCD wont be far behind.
I can tell you from reading thousands of magazines and books and websites on the subject that progressive is better than interlaced.
One reason is that an interlaced picture loses up to half its resolution when theres movement.
But sir talky says "not so" for the simple reason that 1080i IS A HIGHER NUMBER THAN 720P!!!
If the actual, real world resolution of that 1080i picture is 650 lines you'd be lucky,
and then theres interlace artifacts.
My electronics treacher in 1975 told me that the real world rsolution of a ntsc picture
(480i) is around 240 lines, Joe Kane, television guru says pretty much the same thing, advocating 720p as a broadcast standard because its better (which ABC thought also, they broadcast in 720p).
But this ninny says that 1080i is better because 1080 is a higher number than 720,
and I am supposed to genuflect in front of this silly moron and say "I'm sorry, you're right"
???
In spite of the fact that hes talking gibberish?
He talks about his "system" which "some guys from work" cobbled up for him like its a real world standard, when from his description it cost at least 200 grand,
uses CRT projection( ONE crt projector when anybody knows that you need two because the light output is too meager)
Well, he doesnt know, apparently.
And I predicted that HDDVD was "dead" too, not a hard one to make if you know whats going on, but nothing but ridicule from THAT, especially from HD owners who were too clueless to know they were investing in a dino from day one.
And so on.
In other words, if you are waiting for me to "admit" I am wrong when the world agrees with
ME, sorry, I won rather you will admit it or not.
And I WILL KEEP ON WITH THE THANKLESS TASK OF
trying to drill some knowhow into a rather hard set of skulls.

[Groundbeef]

And WHEN I say plasma is "dead", well, thats silly.

I agree. Look at that Pix even agrees that his original arguement was "silly".

Thanks Pix!

[GMichael]

well, GEE, thanks for your "help" but I need to explain something, I have been doing this for 40 odd years now.
I built a three stage solid state amp when I WAS 17, (using F.E.T. transistors)
Probably couldnt do it today without a kit, but I DID do it.
Put it on top of an old tube fisher fm tuner, sounded quite good.
And did this before you were a wet spot on your mamas undies.
Why do I REFUSE TO ADMIT that I am wrong? Because most of the time
I'M not.
And I am not going to lie and say that something I learned in electronics class is "wrong"
just to win the favor of a bunch on this site that really are a lot more clueless than they think?
NOPE, because I am a GROWNUP.
And an astute observer of human nature, thanks to a career in law enforcement,
started when dyslexia made it increasingly more complicated to compete in electronics.
For instance why do you think GM is always there with the smartass remark?
And always turns a thread away from the subject, to something silly as hell?
Because his knowledge of most subjects is rather , ah, "slim" to put it politely?
Why is sir talky so immature? Because hes a young man impersonating either someone he made up or a real person, maybe a relative, but if he is out of college
yet it would surprize me, if he werent out of high school it would'nt.
I get "into trouble" trying to challenge some people on this board, my bad , they dont have any gray matter to challenge, especially "groundgeek" who has a picture of his
brains as an avatar.
But I must admit that the viciousness of some attacks is rather off putting sometimes,
but again I am a grownup and rather abrasive myself sometimes, a little heat is something I AM TOO USED TO.
Did you know that a plasma burns LESS energy than a LCD? YEP!
At least that is what the clueless wooch says. AND HES' the ONLY one who says it,
its common knowledge that a plasma tv is an energy hog, sometimes burning as much as
thirty times as much energy as an LCD in a year.
But I am "stubborn" because I refuse to admit hes "right" when what he says contradicts
EVERY source you can find on the subject.
And WHEN I say plasma is "dead", well, thats silly.
But there was a photo in the paper today of Sonys new toy, an 11" OLED television,
prices are expected to drop and size to rise, it wont take three years for this form factor to become dominant.
And that should make the snobs on this board happy, they keep citing "black level"
as one of the "great" things about plasma, when the difference between LCD and plasma is slight at best, and glare from plasma negates a lot of that.
Well, they should love OLED, the black level is PERFECT.
And plasma sales are already dropping, considering how long it took a LCD panel to go from 2,000 for 15" TO 550$ for a 32" , and considering that OLED is easier to make,
not only is plasma "DEAD", LCD wont be far behind.
I can tell you from reading thousands of magazines and books and websites on the subject that progressive is better than interlaced.
One reason is that an interlaced picture loses up to half its resolution when theres movement.
But sir talky says "not so" for the simple reason that 1080i IS A HIGHER NUMBER THAN 720P!!!
If the actual, real world resolution of that 1080i picture is 650 lines you'd be lucky,
and then theres interlace artifacts.
My electronics treacher in 1975 told me that the real world rsolution of a ntsc picture
(480i) is around 240 lines, Joe Kane, television guru says pretty much the same thing, advocating 720p as a broadcast standard because its better (which ABC thought also, they broadcast in 720p).
But this ninny says that 1080i is better because 1080 is a higher number than 720,
and I am supposed to genuflect in front of this silly moron and say "I'm sorry, you're right"
???
In spite of the fact that hes talking gibberish?
He talks about his "system" which "some guys from work" cobbled up for him like its a real world standard, when from his description it cost at least 200 grand,
uses CRT projection( ONE crt projector when anybody knows that you need two because the light output is too meager)
Well, he doesnt know, apparently.
And I predicted that HDDVD was "dead" too, not a hard one to make if you know whats going on, but nothing but ridicule from THAT, especially from HD owners who were too clueless to know they were investing in a dino from day one.
And so on.
In other words, if you are waiting for me to "admit" I am wrong when the world agrees with
ME, sorry, I won rather you will admit it or not.
And I WILL KEEP ON WITH THE THANKLESS TASK OF
trying to drill some knowhow into a rather hard set of skulls.

Now there's the Pix I remember. Welcome back.
At the risk of saying something silly, I enjoyed your post. But after all, I don't know much about these things.

[Rich-n-Texas]

Now there's the Pix I remember. Welcome back.
At the risk of saying something silly, I enjoyed your post. But after all, I don't know much about these things.

I escaped his wrath this time around.

[GMichael]

I escaped his wrath this time around.

You didn't jab him with a stick as much as I did. Glad to see him back in form. He was starting to get too nice.

[jrhymeammo]

You just gotta chill out a bit, old man.
I think 99% of us here can learn a thing or two from your audio knowledge. But you gotta learn to take in others' advice, before spitting off your knowledge.

well, GEE, thanks for your "help" but I need to explain something, I have been doing this for 40 odd years now.
I built a three stage solid state amp when I WAS 17, (using F.E.T. transistors)
Probably couldnt do it today without a kit, but I DID do it.
Put it on top of an old tube fisher fm tuner, sounded quite good.
And did this before you were a wet spot on your mamas undies.
Why do I REFUSE TO ADMIT that I am wrong? Because most of the time
I'M not.
And I am not going to lie and say that something I learned in electronics class is "wrong"
just to win the favor of a bunch on this site that really are a lot more clueless than they think?
NOPE, because I am a GROWNUP.

And an astute observer of human nature, thanks to a career in law enforcement,

I SMELL BACON!!!!

started when dyslexia made it increasingly more complicated to compete in electronics.
For instance why do you think GM is always there with the smartass remark?
And always turns a thread away from the subject, to something silly as hell?
Because his knowledge of most subjects is rather , ah, "slim" to put it politely?
Why is sir talky so immature? Because hes a young man impersonating either someone he made up or a real person, maybe a relative, but if he is out of college
yet it would surprize me, if he werent out of high school it would'nt.
I get "into trouble" trying to challenge some people on this board, my bad , they dont have any gray matter to challenge, especially "groundgeek" who has a picture of his
brains as an avatar.
But I must admit that the viciousness of some attacks is rather off putting sometimes,
but again I am a grownup and rather abrasive myself sometimes, a little heat is something I AM TOO USED TO.
Did you know that a plasma burns LESS energy than a LCD? YEP!
At least that is what the clueless wooch says. AND HES' the ONLY one who says it,
its common knowledge that a plasma tv is an energy hog, sometimes burning as much as
thirty times as much energy as an LCD in a year.
But I am "stubborn" because I refuse to admit hes "right" when what he says contradicts
EVERY source you can find on the subject.
And WHEN I say plasma is "dead", well, thats silly.
But there was a photo in the paper today of Sonys new toy, an 11" OLED television,
prices are expected to drop and size to rise, it wont take three years for this form factor to become dominant.
And that should make the snobs on this board happy, they keep citing "black level"
as one of the "great" things about plasma, when the difference between LCD and plasma is slight at best, and glare from plasma negates a lot of that.
Well, they should love OLED, the black level is PERFECT.
And plasma sales are already dropping, considering how long it took a LCD panel to go from 2,000 for 15" TO 550$ for a 32" , and considering that OLED is easier to make,
not only is plasma "DEAD", LCD wont be far behind.
I can tell you from reading thousands of magazines and books and websites on the subject that progressive is better than interlaced.
One reason is that an interlaced picture loses up to half its resolution when theres movement.
But sir talky says "not so" for the simple reason that 1080i IS A HIGHER NUMBER THAN 720P!!!
If the actual, real world resolution of that 1080i picture is 650 lines you'd be lucky,
and then theres interlace artifacts.
My electronics treacher in 1975 told me that the real world rsolution of a ntsc picture
(480i) is around 240 lines, Joe Kane, television guru says pretty much the same thing, advocating 720p as a broadcast standard because its better (which ABC thought also, they broadcast in 720p).
But this ninny says that 1080i is better because 1080 is a higher number than 720,
and I am supposed to genuflect in front of this silly moron and say "I'm sorry, you're right"
???
In spite of the fact that hes talking gibberish?
He talks about his "system" which "some guys from work" cobbled up for him like its a real world standard, when from his description it cost at least 200 grand,
uses CRT projection( ONE crt projector when anybody knows that you need two because the light output is too meager)
Well, he doesnt know, apparently.
And I predicted that HDDVD was "dead" too, not a hard one to make if you know whats going on, but nothing but ridicule from THAT, especially from HD owners who were too clueless to know they were investing in a dino from day one.
And so on.
In other words, if you are waiting for me to "admit" I am wrong when the world agrees with
ME, sorry, I won rather you will admit it or not.
And I WILL KEEP ON WITH THE THANKLESS TASK OF
trying to drill some knowhow into a rather hard set of skulls.

Also retarded.
Seriously, if you dont chill out we are going to have you kicked off of this site. I do agree with some of your comments above, but your remarks about other members is about as original as "I SMELL BACON".

Seriously, calm down.

JRA

[Woochifer]

Why do I REFUSE TO ADMIT that I am wrong? Because most of the time
I'M not.

And I am not going to lie and say that something I learned in electronics class is "wrong"
just to win the favor of a bunch on this site that really are a lot more clueless than they think?

No, you're going to lie, just because that's the only way that you can maintain this delusion that you're never wrong! C'mon, the truth ain't so bad. Besides, with everyone wising up to your charade, it's not like you got anyone left on this board that you can fool anyway!

NOPE, because I am a GROWNUP.

Actually, you're just old.

And an astute observer of human nature, thanks to a career in law enforcement,

......self-aggrandizing nonsense snipped ......



Why is sir talky so immature? Because hes a young man impersonating either someone he made up or a real person, maybe a relative, but if he is out of college
yet it would surprize me, if he werent out of high school it would'nt.

And given that I personally know Sir T, I can safely say that your "astute" observations about him are just as off-base as your grasp on most home theater topics! Of course, your "astute" observation about "human nature" (and everything else for that matter) is that we're all DOOMED, DOOMED I TELL YOU DOOMED! DID I MENTION DOOMED?

I get "into trouble" trying to challenge some people on this board, my bad , they dont have any gray matter to challenge, especially "groundgeek" who has a picture of his
brains as an avatar.
But I must admit that the viciousness of some attacks is rather off putting sometimes,
but again I am a grownup and rather abrasive myself sometimes, a little heat is something I AM TOO USED TO.

All you're getting is a taste of what you dish out. Don't like the flavor? Learn how to cook better!

Did you know that a plasma burns LESS energy than a LCD? YEP!
At least that is what the clueless wooch says. AND HES' the ONLY one who says it,

Couldn't win this argument the first two times, so here you go repeating the same idiocy yet again! I've stated before, and I'll state it again, plasma CAN consume less energy than LCD, and energy consumption tests prove this.

Once again, here's the quote from the January 2006 issue of Home Theater magazine, which relies on actual power consumption measurements, rather than factually and grammatically challenged rantings ...

Out of the box, the plasma is slightly better than the LCD, at 194 watts. Drop the contrast to 80 percent of its maximum (where you'd expect a calibrated set to be, more or less), and now you're down to 162 watts. That's a savings of $0.40 each month (calculated based on two hours per day of use) over the full-lamp LCD!

In that case, using out of the box settings running identical test signals, the plasma set was already using 38% less power than an equivalent LCD set. So, I'm obviously not the ONLY one saying this. And this ain't the first time I've knocked down this pathetic generalization, and it sadly won't be the last, given your demonstrated incapacity to let it go! I've already beaten you down on this point twice, I guess you're now gunning for three! This is like watching a recorded sporting event -- repeating the same scene over and over doesn't change the outcome, but I guess you'll keep trying!

its common knowledge that a plasma tv is an energy hog, sometimes burning as much as
thirty times as much energy as an LCD in a year.

Common knowledge or another one of your common lies?

30X, where's your source on that? I'd sure like to see it! Maybe if that LCD is on standby, you might have a case, but otherwise, we'll just have to add it to the long list of unsupportable nonsense that you've posted.

Couldn't win this argument on two other threads, so you keep repeating it yet again!

But I am "stubborn" because I refuse to admit hes "right" when what he says contradicts
EVERY source you can find on the subject.

Either your reading comprehension is worse than even I suspected, or you're flat out lying yet again. I already cited a reputable source that measured real world conditions under which plasma uses less energy than LCD, and you continue to deny deny deny -- how sad to live in such a state!

But there was a photo in the paper today of Sonys new toy, an 11" OLED television,
prices are expected to drop and size to rise, it wont take three years for this form factor to become dominant.

Hmmm, and given that Samsung is projecting at least two more years before anything close to 40" will even come onto the market, you're saying that OLED will come to market and achieve market dominance in only one year? Where's your evidence that this kind of rapid adoption is even possible, since it has never happened before and you don't know squat about any production issues or line capacity limitations that might crop up within that time?

And that should make the snobs on this board happy, they keep citing "black level"
as one of the "great" things about plasma, when the difference between LCD and plasma is slight at best, and glare from plasma negates a lot of that.

And as I've stated before, if OLED is all that it's cracked up to be, then I'll be glad to see LCD and plasma gone, given that both technologies have significant drawbacks.

Of course, you ignore that point, and ignore the sizable advantage that plasma has over LCD in the area of motion resolution. 1080p plasmas can generally display 800 to 900 lines of resolution with moving images, while even 120 Hz LCDs have a motion resolution of less than 600. Oh, and BTW, Home Theater's lowest motion resolution measurement in their November 2007 roundup was with a 1080p Vizio LCD, which had a motion resolution of 380 -- this means that with moving images, the resolution on that LCD set dropped BELOW DVD resolution! Tell me again how these differences are "slight at best"?

And plasma sales are already dropping, considering how long it took a LCD panel to go from 2,000 for 15" TO 550$ for a 32" , and considering that OLED is easier to make,
not only is plasma "DEAD", LCD wont be far behind.

Well, that's all well and good, but given that the only set on the market RIGHT NOW measures 11" and costs $2,500, OLED doesn't mean a thing for anyone who's in the market for a TV RIGHT NOW.

In other words, if you are waiting for me to "admit" I am wrong when the world agrees with
ME, sorry, I won rather you will admit it or not.
And I WILL KEEP ON WITH THE THANKLESS TASK OF
trying to drill some knowhow into a rather hard set of skulls.

Actually, your thankless task is trying to make half-truths and debunked nonsense sound coherent! And on that count, you're slacking off, your ramblings are still as incomprehensible as ever ... c'mon get to it!